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246w ago - Update: Many users including namdlo and nannou have pointed out the picture is dated, and have determined this scare to be more of a wake-up call than a true Sony PS3 ban wave over the PS JailBreak PS3 modchip.

As expected, with the release of the PSGroove open-source PS JailBreak PS3 exploit Sony is fighting back and now banning PS3 consoles, with the PSN ban wave error code being 8002A227.

Forum user StandardBus of Italian site ModdingStudio.com (linked above) first reported this, and based on the PSJB Backup Manager ID apparently Sony is banning the OpenPSID or PS3 MAC address... meaning another PSN account won't do you any good.

Needless to say, PlayStation 3 consoles will soon be shipping with an updated PS3 Firmware revision to patch the exploit.

Below is the rough translation from StandardBus on the PS JailBreak PS3 console bans:

"Predictably, in the end it happened. Maybe some of you were already aware of it, but because of the holidays (and the lack of coverage for data traffic in the area where I was on vacation) I could not actively follow the scene as I usually do.

For anyone who had missed the news, Sony is left with its hands seeing copies of his JigKey distributed at an impressive speed to all major retailers of mod chips for consoles.

Some users who have rushed to buy the key in question and abuse them without getting too many problems on the legality of their actions, recently could not help but note that their console was excluded from the use of any online service offered by Sony.

This exclusion / limitation (in computer terms "BAN") is the inclusion of the NDP registered user nickname to a "blacklist" servers in this Sony.

Any attempt to access the console, Sony PlayStation Network using a nickname in this blacklist will be identified and monitored pending potential violations of the terms of use imposed by Sony itself.

But we are talking about... JigKey. Sony plans to block all online console those who make use of that key, just like Microsoft with the Xbox 360 some time ago.

We said that several users, after purchasing the key, received an unusual error code trying to access the game online. Viewing the code is 8002A227.

Analyzing the backup loader pkg PSJailbreak released by the team, you may notice that the ID program is LAUNE-12345.

The initiation of programs (with its ID) is recorded in a sort of log in the HDD of the PS3, and Sony is sent to the server for statistical analysis anything but anonymous when the console is connected to Internet (yes, they know who we are, what games we play, how we play and how often, but this is just the tip of the iceberg of data Aquisito on our behalf every day).

Wii also uses this system, but is more discreet in the aspect that the user is given opportunity to view the log in question.

Once you understand this simple mechanism, it is natural to understand how the servers can automatically identify the Sony console and PSN account of people using the key: once considered the log and found the ID-12345 LAUNE simply discover the IP connect the console to find the nickname of the user who has used it and proceed with the ban by adding a nickname to blacklist PSN.

And there's more: some users may forward the idea of changing the nickname to allow console access again the NDP, and partly as a solution may seem effective, but it seems that Sony has also thought of this possibility by request to the consoles connected to PSN their Mac address, uniquely identify the console without the possibility of error, and allowing the permanent ban console all online.

Remains to understand why the team PSJailbreak not activated to change promptly to their application ID, allowing Sony to go to the bank account to account, the console on the console.

Arise at this point spontaneous questions: This is the first demonstration that the team has the sole intention of selling as much as possible and then disappear leaving the customers?

The key upgradeable firmware has been described by many experts as a feature useless, really need to dupe more people can fool with the possibility of updates that do not ever exist?

We hope for those already effected the purchase of JigKey is not so. The seriousness of the team has been challenged on many forums, react to plug this big problem or let it go?"

Sony Suspends PS3 Consoles, PSN Ban Wave Error 8002A227

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#48 - CJPC - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by Mbb View Post
So you say that everyone should make hes own personal Backup Manager and don't share it with anybody?


It would be best - but mind you, Sony can and will still detect it, it just makes it a bit harder is all!

#47 - Mbb - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by CJPC View Post
If you want to make your own stealth manager, which is highly recommended so that nobody else knows what your doing, check out the thread on it here.

So you say that everyone should make hes own personal Backup Manager and don't share it with anybody?

#46 - spark32 - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by b4rtsimps0n View Post
If Sony starts banning they will probably use your PS3's MAC adress. That's tied to the ps3's hardware so your PSN ID will probably be fine if you use your other PS3. Unless they also ban all PSN id's related to the violating PS3, but I doubt they'll do that.


OK thanks. I'll wait till more is known. And if I ever do jailbreak it, I'll just delete all my profiles that I use on my other PS3, and disable my slim's internet connection, as well as banning it from access on my server (just incase sony tries to be sneaky and connect through Wifi even though internet is disabled).

#45 - b4rtsimps0n - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by spark32 View Post
You can still upgrade your FW (I'm not sure about online, but you can download it off the Sony site and put it on a USB). And the web browser will still work fine. You just can't access PSN.

I have a question myself about PSN bans (and this should be answerable because anyone who has been banned before should know the answer, not just PSJailbreak bans).

Ok lets say I have a PSJailbreak and get banned for using it. I have 2 PS3's. My PS3 Slim gets banned, and it has my main account on it. My PS3 Fat remains unbanned, but also has my main account on it. They both run on the same IP address (or whatever it is when you connect through a router).

Now, will my main account get banned from PSN? And would my PS3 Fat not be able to access PSN either? (ex. IP Ban, PSN user ban, etc).
Thanks to anyone that responds, this could be the dealbreaker for me.


If Sony starts banning they will probably use your PS3's MAC adress. That's tied to the ps3's hardware so your PSN ID will probably be fine if you use your other PS3. Unless they also ban all PSN id's related to the violating PS3, but I doubt they'll do that.

#44 - spark32 - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by ahasverus View Post
If your console is banned can you still upgrade the firmware online ?

Or can you still use the ps3 browser ?


You can still upgrade your FW (I'm not sure about online, but you can download it off the Sony site and put it on a USB). And the web browser will still work fine. You just can't access PSN.

I have a question myself about PSN bans (and this should be answerable because anyone who has been banned before should know the answer, not just PSJailbreak bans).

Ok lets say I have a PSJailbreak and get banned for using it. I have 2 PS3's. My PS3 Slim gets banned, and it has my main account on it. My PS3 Fat remains unbanned, but also has my main account on it. They both run on the same IP address (or whatever it is when you connect through a router).

Now, will my main account get banned from PSN? And would my PS3 Fat not be able to access PSN either? (ex. IP Ban, PSN user ban, etc).
Thanks to anyone that responds, this could be the dealbreaker for me.

#43 - Osirisx - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by ahasverus View Post
If your console is banned can you still upgrade the firmware online ?

Or can you still use the ps3 browser ?

well if they ban you from online you should still be able to get updates and use them via a cd or usb drive, just download them from sonys support page like yuo can at the moment. but if sony realy wanted to they could set a flag on your ps3 so it wont take any system updates either from online/usb/cd or a game that happens to come with the latest system update. you only need "game updates" if you want to play online.

#42 - ahasverus - 246w ago
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If your console is banned can you still upgrade the firmware online ?

Or can you still use the ps3 browser ?

#41 - CJPC - 246w ago
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What I find funny, is that although people are worrying about the banhammer, they then go around and install "stealth" backup launchers, when the ones currently released are not stealth at all.

They simply change the Title ID which wont do the trick - as the games are still stored in /dev_hdd0/games/LAUN12345 - a VERY simple check for that folder would be enough to drop the banhammer on any retail console.

If you want to make your own stealth manager, which is highly recommended so that nobody else knows what your doing, check out the thread on it here.

#40 - semitope - 246w ago
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might have been good to wait until after the christmas holidays to release the hack. Sony is probably in the process of building a heap of new consoles for the holidays and they gonna be changing them to block the hack now instead of being unable to do so later when they still have a bit of the old stock left over from the holidays. Not that I know how sonys cycle works with their hardware.

Would it be possible to have users generate their own manager with a unique id? or change the id to match that of a game?

#39 - Osirisx - 246w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by luckluka View Post
You actually do think that sony STILL haven't downloaded the backupmanager ?

there is a good chance that if you try and spoof the mac of the PS3 sony wont allow you to connect to PSN as they proberly have several million MAC addreses accioated to them that they hand out to every ps3 they make.so trying to spoof it with anoter sony one, perhaps one you stole from a ps3 in bestbuy etc they will also ban you.