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137w ago - Following up on the previous Blu-ray drive emulation rumor, today modrobert has announced that 3K3y, a PS3Key (ODD) - essentially an XKey for PS3 - is incoming shortly with some preliminary details outlined below.

Still can't get too excited at requiring additional hardware to play PS3 games with the advent of PlayStation 3 Custom Firmware a few years ago though.

To quote from EurAsia (linked above): I just got word from a well known team that will make PS3 owners happy!

Watching the video and drooling!! With those few words I hope to keep you interested...

Below is a picture (via facebook.com/x360key) as well.

More info while waiting for the video: In order to retrieve the needed BD drive key, Team 3k3y (aka xk3y) will release a PS3 software tool which requires CFW 3.55, after the key is dumped the PS3 can be upgraded to latest official system update (firmware/XMB) to get PSN etc.

The team is exploring other options to dump the required key as well, more on that later.

I'm relatively sure it does support original discs as well, but will confirm it anyway. Pretty much same functionality as xkey.

For now, any PS3 model that can be downgraded to CFW 3.55 will be supported, this is only to retrieve the Blu-ray drive key, after that you can update as you want.

The 3k3y Team is researching other options to dump the required key as well, more on that later. For now you have to downgrade to (or be on) CFW 3.55 in order to get the unique BD drive key required by 3k3y, once you have the key the PS3 can be updated anyway you want, doesn't matter for 3key.

General tech info about 3k3y which is true for xkey as well:

The 3k3y hardware device is an advanced Optical Disc Drive (ODD) emulator, it does not rely on any software based hacks to operate (once the drive key is known).

The device is connected on the SATA (PATA) bus in the PS3, like this; cable from PS3 goes into 3key, cable to BD drive goes out from 3k3y, in other words 3k3y physically sits between the drive and the PS3 mainboard and offers USB 2.0 port to connect hard drive(s). Games residing on the connected hard drive(s) can be selected using a small remote display with buttons (as seen in the photo linked a few posts up reading "PS3" in white characters on the display).

For the PS3 this device appears as a legit BD drive, and replies to any ATA protocol requests/commands the same way the original drive does. The BD drive key which is unique in each PS3 makes it possible for 3k3y to decrypt/encrypt data on the fly and redirect SATA traffic originally on disc media from the hard drive connected via USB 2.0 instead. No original Blu-ray disc needs to be inserted for operation, you can use this without any disc in the drive.

Again, this makes it possible to use any official firmware (XMB) version you want after installation (and key retrieval). No need for software hacks like CFW or DEX to make this work at all. If the original game requires firmware (XMB) 4.25, then go ahead and update, just like you would if the system was completely original (virgin).

I hope this clears up any misunderstandings what 3k3y does, or what it requires.

If the CFW you use can load games on Blu-Ray from the BD drive today, then it will be able to do that from hard drive with 3k3y installed as well.

However, to my knowledge the Blu-ray Disc (BD) drive is not used with CFW, original game disc can be mounted for compatibility, but games are actually loaded from a hard drive connected to the USB port on PS3 or from the internal hard drive.

Simply put, whatever fails with the installed CFW will fail with 3key as well. That's the reason it is kind of pointless to use 3k3y with CFW, but makes a lot of sense to use OFW.

In summary:

  • The team for now is only releasing one picture regarding 3K3Y, but are hoping for an end of the year release.
  • It is full hardware interface, not a dongle, but currently you need CFW v3.55 to dump the BD drive key, after that you can update.
  • It will be complete ODD Blu-ray emulator, allowing even the feature to rip your original PS3 game discs to your external HDD.
  • Due to the nature of design, you will be required to open your PS3 to install it, but NO SOLDERING is needed.
  • More info will be release later, but for now any more pictures and videos are PRIVATE and been shown only to trusted long-time resellers.
  • In order to retrieve the needed BD drive key, Team 3k3y (aka xk3y) will release a PS3 util which requires CFW 3.55, after the key is dumped the PS3 can be upgraded to latest official system update (firmware/XMB) to get PSN etc. The team is exploring other options to dump the required key as well, more on that later.

Update: Below is a minor timeline update, as follows:

[21/10/12] 3k3y key dumper app! (pictured below)

Finally from bubba: You will need do some soldering with this ODE... If You want to get the keys from 4.31. SATA bus level For 25xx and newer models will need to be solder and to get the keys and play backups.


Rumor: 3K3y - PS3Key (ODD) XKey for PS3 Consoles is Incoming

Rumor: 3K3y - PS3Key (ODD) XKey for PS3 Consoles is Incoming

Rumor: 3K3y - PS3Key (ODD) XKey for PS3 Consoles is Incoming

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#55 - 0Umix0 - 136w ago
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good news thanks

#54 - CREEPSHOW - 136w ago
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may be you can kinect the PS Vita to the usb on the ps3 and you can send psp games to PS Vita and i wonder now much is the 3K3y going to be and is it worth it

#53 - Hernaner28 - 136w ago
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This is really amazing but anyone can install it? Is it hard?

Of course it is. DEX is a complete CRAP, how can you say that? I would never install that crap of DEX but I'm definately buyiing this: no need to change flash files and no risk for brick!!

#52 - Tidusnake666 - 136w ago
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That's cool, etc, etc.

But it still needs 3.55 and on 3.55 you can convert console to DEX and play nearly every new game. So, unless they make an 4.xx+ solution, it's not much of use to the end-user (although it's a quite a breakthrough in PS3 scene, glad to see smth like WODE)

#51 - PS4 News - 136w ago
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Following up on the previous update, today the PS3 3K3y Team have made available a video, the official features and release date of 12-12-12 for those interested below.

To quote: PS3 3K3y Features:

  • Play your PS3, PS2 and PSX games from any USB media!
  • No custom firmware required for operation* - you can update to the latest official firmware for PSN access
  • Integrated game ripper
  • User friendly intuitive interface
  • No soldering required
  • Multi-language support
  • Compatible with both Fat and Slim models
  • Supports most file systems, including NTFS, EXT2/3/4, and Mac OS X Extended
  • High speed USB2 interface
  • Powerful embedded Linux system running from Micro SD card (included)
  • Linux firmware fully updatable from USB media
  • FPGA fully updatable from USB media via built-in, in-system JTAG programming
  • Recovery mode - it is always possible to recover from a bad flash Update your PS3 as normal, no CFW or game patching required
  • Pass-through mode. (Use your PS3 in "normal mode")

* Currently firmware 3.55 is required for exctracting the drive key. Once the key has been extracted the PS3 can be updated to any official or custom firmware. We are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3's already on 4.x firmware.

PS3 3K3y How It Works:

3k3y is an optical disk drive emulator for the PlayStation 3 video game console. It is installed between the genuine Blu-ray drive and the PS3 motherboard.

Once 3k3y is successfully installed and configured it can be used to make backups of your original PS3 game disks to USB media, and play those backups from USB media without the need of the original game disk.

Several games can be backed up to a single USB media, making it ideal as a 'jukebox' for hardcore gamers as well as for families with children too young to handle bluray discs with appropriate care.

3k3y works with most PS3 models, however there are a few exceptions, most notably the new super slim model and all PS3s which comes with firmware 4.xx (after retrieving the drive key the PS3 can be upgraded to any firmware). We are working to add support for these PS3's but you are adviced to consult with your reseller if you are in doubt whether your PS3 is compatible with 3k3y or not.




Finally, 3K3Y has detailed pricing at a costly USD $129 for those who can't wait for free PlayStation 3 scene solutions, new PS3 key leaks, CEX and DEX fixes, etc.

Shortly following, a bit more information about 3K3y and 3Dump (via consolecrunch.com/more-information-about-3k3y-3dump-coming-soon/) surfaced, to quote:

Following up on the previous update, today the 3K3y Team shows us a picture of their future release application called 3Dump that allows you to dump the key that is needed to use the 3K3y.

More PlayStation 3 News...

#50 - Shade01 - 137w ago
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Lol, and how is the scene supposed to make progress if every significant discovery is kept private?

Any kind of exploit can be patched but if you use that excuse then nothing is ever going to be released.

#49 - NotJustAnyRob - 137w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by StanSmith View Post
The problem I see is getting that BDkey. I have a PS3 that came with 4.21 so it cant be downgraded so how will that get the key? There has to be another way then it'll be great. And as long as sony cant detect it. The Xbox360 has one of these too and it can be detected and was disabled via a firmware update.

That's why things like this need to stay private (I think)

#48 - derceto - 137w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by dreekuuh View Post
will this mean we all have to change the CFW 3.55 eboots to the original ones to play the games on HDD With the Ps3key? It's gonna be a hell of o job to do this

Thankfully, myself anyways, I've always kept complete clean dumps in a folder. All the updates and patched eboots and stuff I keep separate. Always a good idea to keep clean copies just in case of something like this. However, I'm guessing it won't be very hard to find clean eboots anywhere. Likely see some collection somewhere posting them up.

#47 - PS4 News - 137w ago
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Some more details from modrobert: I've just got verified that 3k3y will use the old ISO backup format for games, not the decrypted PSJB format. So we finally get 1:1 game dumps again, great news for the release groups.

Using PS3 Linux the games can be dumped with the following command:

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As it was done years before PSJB (first USB dongle) was introduced. Video will be released on Saturday or Monday.

From Mistawes comes a (slightly related) Homebrew from BD on PS3 video:




From deank (via ps3crunch.net/forum/threads/4969-UPDATED?p=53872#post53872): You can also dump discs to ISO format in multiMAN (since version 02.07.00) when you enable Direct-Disc-Access-Mode (DDAM). It will create the same 1:1 encrypted ISO as what you get in linux or on the PC with blu-ray drive.

Are you sure that the ISOs will be 1:1 sector copies (ENCRYPTED). Because it is possible to have it in ISO, but already decrypted.

In the second case I see no reason why homebrew apps won't work You can always re-package a homebrew in disc format. Homebrew apps will need some tweaks and changes, but basically all of them can be converted to ISO.

It doesn't matter what the PS3 supports. The ODD software handles the external HDD file system and it can be ntfs, ext or whatever they decided to support.

Why would you have to resign everything? You can play the disc with Assassin's Creed 1 on firmwares 1.90-4.30 can't you and it is signed with known older keys. There are tools (like make_self) which in their latest versions produce 1:1 self files as if signed by Sony itself.

That's why I see no reason why a homebrew (Showtime or Retroarch) won't work - that is if ODDE supports decrypted ISOs. If it requires ISOs which still have the disc-layer-encryption then I'm not sure... Right, for it to work you'll need the key to create authenticated discs (just like the key found in ps3gen dll for masterdisc encryption). Then you create an ISO and it will work with 3k3y.

The decryption of the encrypted sectors (the disc-layer-protection) is handled by the BD-ROM drive after the disc is authenticated, so I guess it is possible to spoof some of the atapi communication so you can read from a plain (non-encrypted) ISO. Just my 2 cents...

The fact remains that you have to dump your original game disc to 1:1 ISO.... I don't have a BD-ROM drive in my PCs, so how can I do that? I'm on 3.55 so I can dump my current discs, but later on it won't be possible. (Buy a BD-ROM drive, Dean! Really.).

Basically it is a good thing since you can play all the games you bought after you rip them to ISO (no piracy here, unless you download ISOs of games you don't actually own). The downside is no homebrew - as simple as that.

Just as a simple POC, here is mM repackaged as PS3 Game Disc (Game):

Download: multiMAN [RETAIL and MASTERDISC].rar (33.27MB) / multiMAN [RETAIL and MASTERDISC].rar (Mirror) / multiMAN [RETAIL and MASTERDISC].rar (Mirror #2) / multiMAN [RETAIL and MASTERDISC].rar (Mirror #3)

multiMAN 04.06.02 [MD].iso is a MasterDisc ISO (encrypted)
multiMAN 04.06.02.iso is a regular ISO (not encrypted, but may require disc-layer-encryption to be added)

Contents:

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If you somehow find a way to burn it to a genuine PS3 disc or use another way of redirecting your BD-Drive to an ISO you'll see how it works. It behaves as a regular PS3 game, it doesn't require a previous mM installation (like regular games), installs the 'game data' to the internal hdd and works the same way as if installed as a package/npdrm (.pkg). Tested and works with firmwares which support ISO loading.

It is just a simple proof that any homebrew app can be 'converted' to game-disc version, provided the homebrew authors are interested. Good luck.

#46 - dreekuuh - 137w ago
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will this mean we all have to change the CFW 3.55 eboots to the original ones to play the games on HDD With the Ps3key? It's gonna be a hell of o job to do this