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July 13, 2010 // 5:05 pm - Today George Hotz aka GeoHot has announced he is retiring from Sony PS3 and Apple iPhone hacking, citing that the demand for updates from end-users will never stop.

In his exit from the PS3 scene, GeoHot left many legitimate PlayStation 3 users without OtherOS and without the promised 3.21OO PS3 Custom Firmware.

The good news? Others whom GeoHot shared the PS3 METLDR info and LV2 dump with are currently using his work to continue hacking the PS3 console, with rumors from IRC (for what those are worth LOL) indicating a public "end-user" PS3 hack may arrive before September 2010 from their camp.

Unfortunately though, just like the past Dark_AleX and "M33" PSP releases, an incoming PS3 hack will probably be from a fictitious group and won't include anything useful to PS3 Devs such as dumps, reversals, sourcecode, etc.

Hopefully once a hole that Sony can't block is public, other PlayStation 3 Devs will begin working on the PS3 though... and sharing all the juicy the technical details along the way for others who wish to learn.

This will help ensure the PS3 scene won't fall victim to the hypocritical and ridiculous "anti-piracy, users deserve nothing" attitude that began the downfall and led to the fate of the current PSP scene.

To quote: His PS3 username, Twitter account, and blog are all now shut down. His last tweet said, "it was a cool ride, and i've learned a lot about a lot. perhaps one of these days i'll do a more formal goodbye."

Along with that post, he wrote in his blog explaining his reasons for retiring from the scene. He says that he "didn't fully realize most of the current scene don't care unless they are getting something," but now he does.

He then continued a bit more in his post with the following: "The real reason behind no release isn't technical. It's just that it will never stop, after blackra1n, people demand unlock, after blacksn0w, people demand untethered. I miss the days when jailbreaking and unlocking were difficult, it attracted a much higher caliber crowd."

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#70 - Siggy12 - July 22, 2010 // 1:21 am
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C'mon Guys... let's face the truth!! Geohot already hacked the PS3, and the reason that prove this is the fact that Sony have done a fast marathon for delete OTHEROS feature from the XMB that was the only patch applicable to the otherwise unpatched Geohot exploit like him declared when he founded it.

Now the things are more hard, with otheros you can anyway launch your code inside the system, without it you can't... so PS3 security is still safe from 3.21 but at risk from 3.15 to 1.60 that nowdays a small branch of people still have it.

#69 - PhilipJWitow - July 21, 2010 // 2:53 am
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Wow, this is kind of unexpected.

I haven't heard from the guy for weeks and was wondering what he was up to. Looks like the crazy security of the PS3 holds up once again. :|

It's also interesting none of the news sites covered this. Hmm.

#68 - PS4 News - July 20, 2010 // 2:53 pm
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Grojcig is also another guy who is starting some CELL related development work

Another Grojcig update- thanks dondolo:

So there are two ways in how the PPE can Communicate with the SPEs. MFC DMA and mailboxes. I just need some more assembly sample codes.

Making my SPU code more readable. It's halfway done, and i already discovered some parts I could easily optimize. http://bit.ly/9UisTk

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I guess I can tell you that. It's actually about reversing SPU and PPU code on the PS3 Linux using the GNU tool chain...

Started working on my new tutorial, no title yet...

A little bit of a preview on my upcoming tutorial:

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#67 - xUb3rn00dlEx - July 18, 2010 // 12:46 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by lilshortwun View Post
I think it is you who is misinformed. Sony has released details that the Playstation 4 is coming soon, quite possibly by the end of 2012. That is not 5 years but in about 2 years.

LOL. Where exactly did you find this information? Perhaps the CEO himself told you? Or did you find among the endless internet rumors, because I myself have seen these rumors too.

If you honestly believe that Sony would push through new 3D content and motion control right before 2011, only to replace that with COMPLETELY new hardware a little over a year later, you my friend know nothing of business models and how they work. Will 3D and motion control transfer their relevance to the next generation, yes, undoubtedly.

But to believe that a complete system replacement including this utilization is a mere year and a half away is IMO complete idiocy. If you haven't seen the other thread, then let me inform you that apparently Sony PS3 sales are up 85%. Why in the world would Sony decide to release a new console with these kinds of statistics?

I am not going to try to convince you that you are mistaken, because that effort would be futile. You hold on to those hopes and illusions, and I'll stick to my common sense and studies of economics and business.
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Second, it is not possible to create an unbannable or unpatchable hack/exploit. Sony has got this system on lock down and once they detect some form of unauthorized modification to the system, they will void the system from connecting to the PSN network.

I agree that it is not, but I never said it was. I was talking about an exploit that "would be close to impossible to trigger." Why? Because it offers the most use to the community. There is no point in developing something that will need to be completely redone within several days.
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And hacking is like a domino effect. Once the system is hacked, more doors will open that will lead to further development of homebrewing on the system. So regardless if the hack is patched more exploits will show up just because of the first one.

In case you didn't know, professional mod chip makers like the old school guys from original PS1 and PS2 are highly motivated by money while the private devs are motivated by donations and fame. I mean it is a multi-million dollar business.

All the mod chip makers see is green in their eyes and that is all the motivation they needed to find a hack to unlock this system by now. If there was a hole in the PS3 these mod chip makers would of found it already and mass produced a $69.99-$100 mod chip just like that. Imagine how overfilled their bank account would be by the next morning.

As a matter of fact, green drives most of the economy, in case you didn't know. Yes, mod chip developers look to mass produce chips and make money off of them. It is a physical piece of hardware that took time to create and distribute, and in order to keep distribution on going, costs need to be covered by revenues.

The same is true on the software side of things, but not necessarily at all times. Sometimes software hacks are delivered through donations and free of charge, and other times they are sold. A good example of this would be the FTA hacking scene.
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And I agree that otheros was an important factor in dumping some quite possibly crucial Playstation 3 data to be analyzed but however now that it is gone that does not does not mean that otheros is the only way to hack the system.

That is not gone. For those who haven't upgraded, otherOS remains installed on their system, but they do trade up access to PSN. I agree that it was an important factor and probably not the only way to hack it, but it is the furthest a hack has ever gone involving the PS3 and shows the most potential for a full blown hack.

#66 - cfwprophet - July 18, 2010 // 8:44 am
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All the mod chip makers see is green in their eyes and that is all the motivation they needed to find a hack to unlock this system by now. If there was a hole in the PS3 these mod chip makers would of found it already and mass produced a $69.99-$100 mod chip just like that. Imagine how overfilled their bank account would be by the next morning.


Not true !!
Look at the Wii sceen, everything good is coming from FREE Hackers/Modders/Devers and not from the so good called Modchip old school guys.Even the now installable channels wich comes with the modchips are based on the work of US -The Community-

On the PS3 it was a FREE Hacker who have reversed the ECC of the NAND and not the Team Infectus !!!

And even the Infectus Flasher works not so good as the self coded and free available Amoxi Flasher from Bushing (the Master Wii Hacker and Leader of Team Twiizers)

Beside that on the PS3 the 3D games are on the beginning.There is no single one 3D game to time and even the motion thingy is not released to time and you really think that sony will put out a new con in the year of 2012?
I will say -No Way-

#65 - lilshortwun - July 18, 2010 // 1:49 am
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Quote Originally Posted by xUb3rn00dlEx View Post
Next time before you post, inform yourself correctly instead of being a pessimistic useless dent of influence in the community.

I think it is you who is misinformed. Sony has released details that the Playstation 4 is coming soon, quite possibly by the end of 2012. That is not 5 years but in about 2 years.

Second, it is not possible to create an unbannable or unpatchable hack/exploit. Sony has got this system on lock down and once they detect some form of unauthorized modification to the system, they will void the system from connecting to the PSN network.

And hacking is like a domino effect. Once the system is hacked, more doors will open that will lead to further development of homebrewing on the system. So regardless if the hack is patched more exploits will show up just because of the first one.

In case you didn't know, professional mod chip makers like the old school guys from original PS1 and PS2 are highly motivated by money while the private devs are motivated by donations and fame. I mean it is a multi-million dollar business.

All the mod chip makers see is green in their eyes and that is all the motivation they needed to find a hack to unlock this system by now. If there was a hole in the PS3 these mod chip makers would of found it already and mass produced a $69.99-$100 mod chip just like that. Imagine how overfilled their bank account would be by the next morning.

And I agree that otheros was an important factor in dumping some quite possibly crucial Playstation 3 data to be analyzed but however now that it is gone that does not does not mean that otheros is the only way to hack the system.

Believe me in due time the playstation 3 will be hacked. And in due time we will possibly also get a PS3 emulator to play on the PC also. I'm just stating the obvious from a realist point of view that it may not come before the release of the PS4.

#64 - rockon4you - July 18, 2010 // 1:29 am
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HAHA yea definitely. He did sooo much for it. Why in God's name though would he just stop hacking?? I mean c'mon, a man that brilliant?

#63 - tifozi1 - July 18, 2010 // 12:42 am
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Good freaking riddance. Hopefully he will survive with his 401k and chuckle about getting rid of OtherOS feature from the PS3.

#62 - tripellex - July 17, 2010 // 2:58 pm
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Yes it matters. I paid for the feature, I want what I paid for. It really is as simple as that in my eyes.

Precisely. When I bought this sytem nearly four years ago for $400, I paid for ALL the features that came with it. That includes 4 USB ports, memory card reader, 80gb hdd, PS1/PS2 hardware emulation and OtherOS. You don't see car makers coming to your house and taking away your power heated seats or third row seating just because you may or may not use it. Its there in case you NEED to use it.

The sheer balls of today's game system makers to outright REMOVE features we paid for is absurd in that regard. First the 360 with their bans/paid content crippling, then SOny with the OtherOS removal. With the exception of slim users, WE PAID FOR IT.

We are not renting the system from Sony, so it is not theirs to do with as they please. If anything, its ours, and that includes hardware manipulation. Thats the entire reason for the warranty. If we crack the case, oh well, we lose our warranty. That's our choice to make. Yes, they may ban us from their service, and that's fine.

I hardly ever use PSN or XBL anyways. But taking away stuff WE PAID FOR, all because of some egotistical little prick who wanted to make a name for himself and gave up before the job was done, both things piss me off more than anything. Geohot's ADHD, and Sony's ignorance.

Look, you supporters out there can whine all you want. The fact is, in case you didn't read it the first time, is the MAJORITY of users whom this has affect are pissed off. Just look at this post. You supporters have maybe five, six people on his side. Those of us who were screwed by both Geo and Sony, we overwhelm you by a factor of 10 to 1.

And that says something to the mindset of the entire scene. We're done with letting system makers treat us the way they have been, robbing us blindly of what WE PAID FOR. Their concept is, "Let's rob all of them before a few of them get a chance to possibly rob us", and its BS. You know it. I know it. Everyone here knows it.

Yes, Geo was the first person in four years to find a flaw in the PS3's almost impervious armor, and for that, we recognize his accomplishment. No one is disputing that. But his sheer arrogance, ineptitude and egotistical behavior, not to mention him crying "Oh you commenters are so mean, I'm gonna take my toys and go home!" and not finishing what he A) promised to deliver, and B) promised to share is why we despise him.

Do you think if L0pht or another equally talented hacking team had taken up the task, they would have just given up after making such a major breakthrough, and moved on to the next shiny toy without at least delivering something good? No, they wouldn't, because they are experienced, seasoned and respectable hackers, not wannabe celebrities. He is the Kate Gosselin of the hacking world.

I'm surprised this MFer hasn't tried to get his own TLC show on hacking yet. Guess Mike Rowe wasn't available to do the voiceovers.

#61 - xUb3rn00dlEx - July 17, 2010 // 1:09 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by lilshortwun View Post
Why would you even wait for that "3.21OO PS3 Custom Firmware" first of all? Does it even matter if you could use otheros or not? A real computer would get you much farther than the PS3's limited otheros compatibilities.

Second, would you even dare to play online with this "3.21OO PS3 Custom Firmware" if it were released? More than likely a week later you are going to find a nice ban hammer on your system as well as a new update for the PS3, courtesy of Sony Entertainment.

If you would even take a second to look at the PS3 at a realistic point of view, 3 years and no homebrew had happened and it isn't likely going to happen in just 5 or 6 weeks as geohot said it would. All he did was get your hopes up and crush it.

And I am afraid more false hopes of a possible homebrew are going to be on the way for the PS3 system. More than likely when the PS3 does get hacked it wouldn't matter anymore because the PS4 would be out and all the hypes and newer games would be exclusively for that system.

The way I see it, the PS4 will not be out prior to 2012, but I suspect that no new system will be released in the next 5 years. The hardware and capabilities are far from outdated, and the CEO himself said that only when the PS3 was technologically outdated with its capabilities would the next generation of gaming be released from Sony. So if I'm correct, 5 years is a long time. The progress that has been made on the PS3 is outstanding and only continuing in a forward direction.

And the whole reason that it is taking so long is because the development team want an exploit that would be close to impossible to trigger the ban hammer for, otherwise we would've undoubtedly seen some exploits by now which simply would be covered up by a quick patch.

Sony got this console security right, and I salute them for that. But I salute the devs much more for their constant determination in trying to beat the security, instead of coming here and posting while being misinformed.

The first question you asked is does it even matter if you could use otherOS? Well, if you kept up with the developments, in order to perform several hacks that have been developing over the weeks, otherOS was NEEDED. If not for use as an actual OS, then solely for the hack-ability.
Next time before you post, inform yourself correctly instead of being a pessimistic useless dent of influence in the community.

End of rant.