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March 29, 2010 // 12:47 pm - Today infamous PS3 hacker GeoHot has blogged that users should not update their PS3 entertainment systems to PS3 Firmware v3.21 when it is released this Thursday as it will disable the OtherOS functionality, and as incentive not to update he has promised the very community he isn't sharing details on how to dump lv2 with that he will work on a solution which could include PS3 Custom Firmware.

To quote: "A note to people interested in the exploit and retaining OtherOS support, DO NOT UPDATE. When 3.21 comes out, I will look into a safe way of updating to retain OtherOS support, perhaps something like Hellcat's Recovery Flasher. I never intended to touch CFW, but if that's how you want to play...

Two things, some people seem to think CFW will enable some sort of piracy. It won't. It'll just be a custom version of 3.21 that doesn't lose OtherOS support. Hacking isn't about getting what you didn't pay for, it's about making sure you do get what you did.

And this is about more than this feature right now. It's about whether these companies have the right to take away advertised features from a product you purchased. Imagine if an exploit were found in Safari on the iPhone, but instead of fixing it, Apple decides to pull web browsing altogether. Legally, they may be within their right to do so, but we have to show them it's the wrong move for the future of the product and the company.

First off, I want to apologize to all the people who use Linux on their PS3. Before releasing, I weighed the pros and cons, and considered the possibility of an impact on OtherOS support.

My logic was this. OtherOS support had already been removed from the Slim (not for technical reasons; I believe it only existed in the first place to promote the Cell for IBM) The builders had apparently no intention of including it in future products. So for the purposes of openness why not release? Not like anything else has (or probably will be) done on the PS3.

Now you go and remove a feature that people expected to be included with the expensive device they purchased, citing "security concerns". What security concerns? It's not like the exploit can be run even close to without the users knowledge.

You have to open the thing up. How could this harm users? Your blog post doesn't list positive reasons for upgrading like I think most users expect. Instead it lists things you will lose if you don't upgrade. Seriously?

The PlayStation 3 is the only product I know that loses features throughout it's life cycle. Software PS2 emulation, SACD playback, and OtherOS support are all just software switches you can flip. It's unbelievable you would go and flip one, not just on new boxes you are shipping, but on tens of millions already in the field."

Here is to hoping GeoHot releases a PlayStation 3 solution in a timely manner, as unfortunately the entire PS3 (and Linux) scene is left waiting on him at the moment.

GeoHot: Don't Update to 3.21, Promises PS3 Custom Firmware

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#17 - XSAVAGE - March 29, 2010 // 9:20 pm
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:D Homebrew please , i don't care if i can run backups , i just want homebrew

#16 - Frago - March 29, 2010 // 9:11 pm
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Yeah geohot is right i paid 800euro for 60gb ps3 with otheros support if i don't need it i buying a slim with 350euro without otheros support right?

#15 - CompTronicsTec - March 29, 2010 // 8:57 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by Raze1988 View Post
I'm sure you can count this a some kind of promise, but I think if he sees this post he will get angry with our community once again.

He never actually wrote "I promise to", so he may think we expect him to deliver and accept no "I couldn't find a way".

I honestly dont care if he gets mad either, this is his fault if you wanted to blame any one person. He single handedly cost thousands of people who have no interest in hacking PS3 money and/or features.

I still dont agree with Sony's method for handling things, so i do hope he is able to "outsmart" them, but that doesnt mean that we wouldnt still have OtherOS if it wasnt for him. Right now he is the lesser of 2 evils.

If he can do something about OtherOS, great im on board as long as there is no trade-off. Otherwise, like presumably most others, i will just have to update and live with it.

I guess this is incentive to somewhere down the line get a cheap htpc and set it up to dual boot with linux.

#14 - Surfaced - March 29, 2010 // 8:56 pm
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He makes only valid points, but I think his idea of the term "security" is too limited for what SCE is really working at. They never said "user security", correct? This is for their company's livelihood. It's that kind of security.

#13 - TUHTA - March 29, 2010 // 8:48 pm
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cool... but is that mean that geo got something really cool, that can return Reatil to FULL DEBUG?

and i think its just GEOHOTz 1april's fools JOKE!

#12 - SDF - March 29, 2010 // 8:43 pm
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Even sony have difficult times with the OS of the PS3 and adding things and geohot is saying that he will release cfw?
yea right... Totally agree with the picture, he is a clown.

#11 - Shrink - March 29, 2010 // 8:43 pm
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Forget it. If he's really looking into it he won't be able to give us CFW within the next 2 months. Hacking is one thing - and yes - concerning this he is a damn genuis. But building a CFW from scratch - no way he's gonna do it that fast.

I have lots of respect for his work. Anyway I guess the battle is as good as lost. However it seems it was never won on Slims.

#10 - Preceptor - March 29, 2010 // 8:38 pm
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uh... I really really really never expected this to happen. GeoHot haven't done anything really useful for the ps3 community since he released the exploit. I guess he perceived this as a personal offense to him and his otherwise "harmless" (to endusers) exploit. I guess now he has mixed feelings about this.

First I think he feels he somehow owes the community for the loss of the OtherOS feature, since it was removed due to his exploit. Second he has the "Stick-it-to-the-man-niosis" syndrome because he thinks Sony is going over the edge and abusing its power, removing stuff that people paid for... Now let's see how this grand drama will play out. I will be cheering for Mr. Geo!

Let's just hope it doesn't end in a greek tragedy.

#9 - PS4 News - March 29, 2010 // 8:28 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by Raze1988 View Post
I'm sure you can count this a some kind of promise, but I think if he sees this post he will get angry with our community once again.

I don't think he actually wrote "I promise to", so he may think we expect him to deliver and accept no "I couldn't find a way".

Some sites are reporting he "threatened Sony with PS3 Custom Firmware" but my interpretation of his post is that he is promising those who follow him a solution which (as he stated) may include PS3 CFW.

For the record though, GeoHot is a hypocrite in my book so I could care less whether he agrees with what we post... I don't agree with what he posts (or fails to), but he will continue to do what he wants anyway and all we can do is wait for him to share more than RCO Edits.

#8 - uytruy - March 29, 2010 // 8:25 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by hellospaceboy View Post
Things are going to get really interesting now...

OK I am really conflicted on what I should do now... I have a Launch 60 GB PS3 that got the YLOD. I have been holding on to it with hopes of a hack or custom firmware. After seeing the OtherOS feature being removed I immediately decided I would have to sell it.

The only other alternative is to Keep it til there's a hack and then send it off to sony and hope it doesn't come back with 3.21. What should I do??