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269w ago - Today infamous PS3 hacker GeoHot has blogged that users should not update their PS3 entertainment systems to PS3 Firmware v3.21 when it is released this Thursday as it will disable the OtherOS functionality, and as incentive not to update he has promised the very community he isn't sharing details on how to dump lv2 with that he will work on a solution which could include PS3 Custom Firmware.

To quote: "A note to people interested in the exploit and retaining OtherOS support, DO NOT UPDATE. When 3.21 comes out, I will look into a safe way of updating to retain OtherOS support, perhaps something like Hellcat's Recovery Flasher. I never intended to touch CFW, but if that's how you want to play...

Two things, some people seem to think CFW will enable some sort of piracy. It won't. It'll just be a custom version of 3.21 that doesn't lose OtherOS support. Hacking isn't about getting what you didn't pay for, it's about making sure you do get what you did.

And this is about more than this feature right now. It's about whether these companies have the right to take away advertised features from a product you purchased. Imagine if an exploit were found in Safari on the iPhone, but instead of fixing it, Apple decides to pull web browsing altogether. Legally, they may be within their right to do so, but we have to show them it's the wrong move for the future of the product and the company.

First off, I want to apologize to all the people who use Linux on their PS3. Before releasing, I weighed the pros and cons, and considered the possibility of an impact on OtherOS support.

My logic was this. OtherOS support had already been removed from the Slim (not for technical reasons; I believe it only existed in the first place to promote the Cell for IBM) The builders had apparently no intention of including it in future products. So for the purposes of openness why not release? Not like anything else has (or probably will be) done on the PS3.

Now you go and remove a feature that people expected to be included with the expensive device they purchased, citing "security concerns". What security concerns? It's not like the exploit can be run even close to without the users knowledge.

You have to open the thing up. How could this harm users? Your blog post doesn't list positive reasons for upgrading like I think most users expect. Instead it lists things you will lose if you don't upgrade. Seriously?

The PlayStation 3 is the only product I know that loses features throughout it's life cycle. Software PS2 emulation, SACD playback, and OtherOS support are all just software switches you can flip. It's unbelievable you would go and flip one, not just on new boxes you are shipping, but on tens of millions already in the field."

Here is to hoping GeoHot releases a PlayStation 3 solution in a timely manner, as unfortunately the entire PS3 (and Linux) scene is left waiting on him at the moment.

GeoHot: Don't Update to 3.21, Promises PS3 Custom Firmware

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#57 - MisSpark - 269w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by plains203 View Post
Certainly hope Geohot manages to create a custom firmware and then feels like sharing how I would prefer custom firmware to other possible options for getting stuff going.

i'm really not sure how geohot is going to go on how to do it but my 2 logical methods of which i can think of

when the 3.21 released use a pup unpacker and decrypt the file and somehow re-encrypt them somehow and repack the pkg and BAMM install

or

under linux using his method he might be able to gain access and mod the system information to read 3.21 in which allowing the access of online and psn

but them are just guess dont take them right down to the word

#56 - PS4 News - 269w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by plains203 View Post
What makes you think it isn't just a virus like every "interesting" post on those blog's? Even the wording makes it sound as sus as can be.

Well, you are correct... I don't know, but as xorloser is AFK right now I can't ask if he grabbed it and checked either. If anyone has, it would be great if you could post it here (assuming it's legit, of course).
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Got it... I will reply now, Cheers!

#55 - MisSpark - 269w ago
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#54 - plains203 - 269w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by PS3 News View Post

Also, slightly offtopic, but did anyone manage to grab this before the "10 downloads" RapidShare limit was reached?
From xorloser's blog comments:


What makes you think it isn't just a virus like every "interesting" post on those blog's? Even the wording makes it sound as sus as can be.

Certainly hope Geohot manages to create a custom firmware and then feels like sharing how I would prefer custom firmware to other possible options for getting stuff going.

#53 - PS4 News - 269w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by MisSpark View Post
Ps3news email me.

Check your inbox MisSpark, I just sent off an e-mail!

#52 - semitope - 269w ago
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Ppl are so down on piracy. Ppl who don't buy games get no love I tell you.

#51 - MisSpark - 269w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by PS3 News View Post
I updated the first post with the additional details GeoHot added to his blog, specifically the following:

Also, slightly offtopic, but did anyone manage to grab this before the "10 downloads" RapidShare limit was reached?

From xorloser's blog comments:

Ps3news email me.

#50 - PS4 News - 269w ago
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I updated the first post with the additional details GeoHot added to his blog, specifically the following:
Two things, some people seem to think CFW will enable some sort of piracy. It won't. It'll just be a custom version of 3.21 that doesn't lose OtherOS support. Hacking isn't about getting what you didn't pay for, it's about making sure you do get what you did.

And this is about more than this feature right now. It's about whether these companies have the right to take away advertised features from a product you purchased. Imagine if an exploit were found in Safari on the iPhone, but instead of fixing it, Apple decides to pull web browsing altogether. Legally, they may be within their right to do so, but we have to show them it's the wrong move for the future of the product and the company.

Also, slightly offtopic, but did anyone manage to grab this before the "10 downloads" RapidShare limit was reached?

From xorloser's blog comments:
Para says:

I think this is interesting for all

http://rapidshare.com/files/369167358/ps3_app_loader.rar.html

#49 - z3r06rav - 269w ago
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you can have software easily make the lasers tweak on the ps3 to allow reading of any media. and further more sony is hiding the fact that the real reason the price was cut is well for one they were pushed into it by game publishers, then they found the flaws in the ps3 allowing it to be hacked so they disabled the features, hid the settings and encrypted them, redid boot up code, then turned off backward compatibility; to make more money by pushing ps2 back to want to be bought, and covered it up but that isn't what i was originally trying to tell you the fact is the ability to install another os is the ability to make hacking it easy and causing them to lose money. but if want proof find your own way to allow a debug log ran on to ur computer that shows everything done since press power including turn on ps3 scripts and lock out user scripts.
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I agree on the model number being stored with the checks, but it would surprise me if it was all in one file that could conveniently be hex-edited hehe... I imagine they would be sigchecked and of course you couldn't just "turn on" PS2 support due to a lack of chips, etc but still interesting.

even code on the other chips on ps3 including disc drive can be viewed with the right hex editor
Quote Originally Posted by zhixiang View Post
Well, I think $ony is making a bad decision, not only because it removes an advertised feature of launch playstation 3, but also pisses the egohot off. Now he will take this as a serious motivation to make a custom firmware retaining otherOS support. What is really interesting is how he can pwn the playstation 3 signing. Remember a modified update will not be run under gameOS. Maybe someone could learn from him and make a real CFW

resigning is easy the hard part is knowing what to change, btw i am talking about looking entire system at once and hexing that (looking at entire hdd at once not file by file)

#48 - zhixiang - 269w ago
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Well, I think $ony is making a bad decision, not only because it removes an advertised feature of launch playstation 3, but also pisses the egohot off. Now he will take this as a serious motivation to make a custom firmware retaining otherOS support. What is really interesting is how he can pwn the playstation 3 signing. Remember a modified update will not be run under gameOS. Maybe someone could learn from him and make a real CFW