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219w ago - Just over a week ago PlayStation 3 hacker Mathieulh confirmed finding a PS3 3.56 Exploit, and today drizzthacks tweeted part of an IRC chat log where Mathieulh stated the following regarding PS3 Firmware 3.60 running homebrew code, as follows:

"[03:15] while you are insulting me like morons, I already have code running on 3.60, and I am laughing, and guess what ? I am happy I stopped sharing, you can hate me for it, I don't care."

He followed up with the following Tweets: To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well. The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar”

You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution. By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar”

3.60 isn’t “hardcore security” anyway, it’s just Sony thinking they are safe hiding everything inside lv0. You can’t decrypt lv0 without the bootloader keys. Your best bet is to look at 3.56, decrypt loaders, look for exploits, profit. You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.

On IRC, Mathieulh also posted a video of his own but then privatized it currently rendering it unavailable:

Mathieulh: actually you want video proof, let's share one for the lol
Mathieulh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nknwBz-2v8c

Shortly following, another PS3 3.60 JailBreak video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfES89eZwM) was posted followed by the user removing it and reposting it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qohuq0Vvm6M) with another account.

From IRC on the alleged PS3 3.60 JailBreak video:

mastag23: just fyi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfES89eZwM&feature=player_embedded
mastag23: that is fake
mastag23: it would look legit if he hadn't of ran the debugging station launcher
mastag23: You fail "Connected from 192.168.0.2 on port 1000" (port might be wrong pretty blurry.
mastag23: This is a debug unit. That can't be done on a retail unit. Run the Debugging Station Launcher on a retail and the debug tools won't connect to it, yours obviously does
mastag23: debugging station launcher cant be connected to on retail
mastag23: if he hadnt of posted debugging station launcher
mastag23: he would be believable

KaKaRoTo: Fandangos, worked on ps3mfw for 5 weeks before i got busy with other stuff
KaKaRoTo: and now i'm working on something new and revolutionizing that will also take some months of work
KaKaRoTo: (hopefully )
KaKaRoTo: anyways, the theory says that it will jailbreak all future versions, but it needs probably 2 or more months of work to get it to actually be tested..
KaKaRoTo: then need to test and see if it works
KaKaRoTo: first, like I said thousnads of times, there will be no more cfw above 3.55
KaKaRoTo: secondly, math didn't find any exploit, someone else did, math just tweeted it
KaKaRoTo: and no, my hack isn't based on that, there's no fun in using someone else's work
Mathieulh: KaKaRoTo actually it was me and rms, I found one fixed in 1.10 a few instructions below
Mathieulh: told rms to look for the exploit
Mathieulh: and he found the other instead xD
Mathieulh: which I had missed
KaKaRoTo: Mathieulh, ah ok, that's not what i was told, cause you kept referring to it as "the rms exploit" in the private chan
Mathieulh: yah xD
KaKaRoTo: and didn't know rms wanted his name to be known










The video shows a package installing and the new online save function, which was added in PlayStation 3 Firmware 3.60.

Time will tell, but my feeling from the videos and the tweeting... this may be the real deal.


Video: PS3 3.60 JailBreak Rumor, Mathieulh Claims Running Code

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#361 - Bartholomy - 173w ago
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I know what you do, and your spirit, bro. The problem is not your point of view, or mine. Sony is japanese. Japanese looks ps3 hackers/devs as trash who deserve to be digged, deep. Doesn't matter if your work will lead to double Sony's income. Doesn't matter if your work will stop piracy.

Doesn't matter if your work will stop an abuse of some teams. For Sony's eyes, you're using THEIR product and THEIR software (every level of them) and for this reasons, if you release something, you will be sued and called to a particular tribunal, where a funny judge will take care of ruin your life worst than if you was a drug pusher. Sony don't say thanks, neither if you save the CEO's life. You touched THEIR product, you will pay.

It's the truth, bro. And you know i'm right.

#360 - ValoX - 173w ago
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Thanks for the news.

#359 - cfwprophet - 173w ago
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The only thing what i can say: If sony want to sue some one of us im sure they dono need the help of this so called dev god's. From my point of view they would have more reasons to sue DRM teams then normal scene guys like us.

We don't sell sonys games hacked and pressed on a debug disk with there debug key. We dono use and sell a dongle with sonys drm stuff to prevent our work. We're also not releated to any release of sonys keys or what ever. We using tools, code and stuff others have written and released and this also includes work of this dev's. So what they want to do with us ?

We're not against sony, we're not against the scene, we're not against other dev's. We're against team's and dev's using sonys sys to make money with it. We're against dev's preventing those teams.

So we're not the BAD guys which upset sony. On special case WE help sony to stop those guys making money with sonys work. If you ask me sony have more reasons to sue those both teams and every dev of the scene involved into it then to sue guys like me or others.

And also we have not found something new that we push now. The theory of our ongoing work is based on them. They put the con into debugger mode to be able to let you play new games and sell this for a lot of money.

If those teams never started to sell there dongles we wouldn't never started to do the work we now do. So if some one of thoes dev's want to sue some one they should start and sue themself.

#358 - kira30 - 173w ago
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exactly, they need to relax a little, like you said "it's only video games".

#357 - Bartholomy - 173w ago
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You don't understand those devs, elser1, because:

A You're not a loser nerd who need youpo for take a look to a girl
B You lost somewhere your teenager brain, the same one who make you feel a god when you complete a game on HARD MODE (I felt to be a god when i finally got my Bachelor, big difference)
C As much you're a dev, willing to help, elite group will start to threat you, with something like : "well done, you found a great exploit" "Hehe thanks. I think i'll publish it on ps3news and other major forums" "No, you don't understand how things works. You will keep it for yourself, thanks for share" "I beg your pardon? I'll release it in an hour"

"You still don't understand. We will send an email with your name and location to Sony and your life will be gone, if you try. Beware, no joke. You will do like us. Enjoy your work, play online with every game. Share it with your faithful friends. But again, if something goes leaked, we will be the first to help Sony to sue ya".

This is the real story. Kinda crap, right?

Thanks cfwprophet and nabnab, to ignore them.

#356 - kreus - 173w ago
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oh I thought they found a way to decrypt the eboot and unsign. That way it would be possible to reverse engineer. Then all hope is lost hehe

Congrats Cfwprophet and nabnab, I know youre trying hard to make a better place for the scene.

#355 - cfwprophet - 173w ago
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We know how it works and have explained a lot of times. The dongle puts your con into debugger mode. In this special mode you can debug games and thats what they do. They use the system embended debugger to let you play those games.

They take the official game selfs from disk and dump out the elf via the sdk, then re-encrypt them as debug selfs and on a special way thats it.

But it takes a bit more work to get this for free for every one done. The keys have nothing to do with it. They use drm just to hide and to be able to milk us all a bit longer till a free version is done.

#354 - kreus - 173w ago
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And if someone finds how it works, it should be possible of doing the same thing comparing the eboots without the keys with the ones with keys.

In cryptography, a timing attack is a side channel attack in which the attacker attempts to compromise a cryptosystem by analyzing the time taken to execute cryptographic algorithms. Every logical operation in a computer takes time to execute, and the time can differ based on the input; with precise measurements of the time for each operation, an attacker can work backwards to the input.

#353 - elser1 - 173w ago
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its a shame they all think its such a big deal.. its only video games not cure for cancer.. sure it would be great and mean a lot to alot of us but in reality its not that big of a deal, but the way they act gives them a feeling of power i guess.. i don't really understand such behavior, myself i get most enjoyment out of trying to help others..

i wish i bought an xbox when i had the spare cash.. but i love psn too much so ill stick to my ps3 and grin and bare it.. LOL

#352 - kreus - 173w ago
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sorry if it sounds stupid, but we seem to already have the equation ecds uses, cant we extrapolate the variables using multiples ps3 on ofw 4.00 and HFW 4.00?

For what i saw the ECDS encryption only works fine if there is only one or a few machines with the same key. With multiple ps3's its possible to extrapolate, and the higher the number the easier it is.