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228w ago - Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.

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Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."


Rumor: Sony to Remotely Disable JailBroken PS3s, PSN Bans?

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#12 - inginear - 228w ago
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i do not see "fully disabling consoles" working for sony in the end. imagine if car companies could completely disable your car because you were speeding and it was recorded by onstar. speeding is illegal, but are car companies legally able to render your car completely useless because you did something illegal?

i foresee many ps3s being disabled by sony, and a multitude of lawsuits against sony will follow. big companies with lobbyists do everything they can to impose their standards and regulations on the public. unless the public fights back, the big companies will continue to take more and more "rights" from the public/consumers.

#11 - kunit1 - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by tilla View Post
Be smart people. It is, scientifically speaking, impossible for them to do anything without an internet connection. Unplug the cable or disable the wireless and suddenly Sony can't even tell your PS3 exists anymore.

true, but I was hoping to have the option to revert back my ps3 to virgin and then going on PSN whenever I wanted. I never went on PSN since the jailbreak, but I did have my PS3 connected to the internet so according to this rumor you don't need to go on PSN to be flagged.

oh well, those are the risks of modding.

#10 - spawnofjago - 228w ago
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These said errors are only when you personally click "report this to sony", which we btw have control of it's directions. Our Hardware Now! We control whether or not we allow them "thru" those said doors anymore! EIPoDT!

#9 - tilla - 228w ago
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Be smart people. It is, scientifically speaking, impossible for them to do anything without an internet connection. Unplug the cable or disable the wireless and suddenly Sony can't even tell your PS3 exists anymore.

#8 - Gravecorp - 228w ago
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True disable PSN acces is within their rights. But disabling your ps3 hardware is a tough cookie

#7 - VanFinale - 228w ago
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But this isn't talking about disabling PSN access that's perfectly fine but this is stating sony can disable your PS3 outright so you couldn't use it for anything, even offline. That is as far as I know illegal.

#6 - Neo Cyrus - 228w ago
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He wasn't talking about PSN, he was talking about the entire console being disabled.

If Sony have ANY common sense they won't do this... the backlash would be severe. Not to mention it would eventually be reversed. But then again I've seen no signs of common sense from Sony in a long time, they'd rather put their resources into playing cat and mouse rather than putting them to good use.

#5 - kunit1 - 228w ago
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So does this mean that if your PS3 was connected to the internet in the past then you are a target, or are they talking about sony collecting this info starting now?

#4 - barrybarryk - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by blueclouduk View Post
So Sony can disable my console without my permission?

Are they are aware that in many countries that, regardless of any licence agreement, the deliberate act of disabling computer hardware through the use of software is legally deemed as hacking and therefore unlawful.

Utter Nonsense. they aren't disabling anything, PSN is Sony's property and they don't have to guarantee access they can kill it whenever they like for whatever reason they like.

#3 - tilla - 228w ago
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Easy fix: remove your internet connection. Tada, Sony can no longer do anything of the sort.