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228w ago - Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.

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Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."


Rumor: Sony to Remotely Disable JailBroken PS3s, PSN Bans?

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#32 - Jes03 - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by RT102 View Post
I seriously need to find a way to remove the jailbreak, err, homebrew. At least until the dust settles.

WHY would you want to do that? $ony cant do anything to your console. If they did, just swap the HDD and reflash OFW and there is no proof of any jailbreak so its illegal for $ony to do anything to it.

They will have to prove you modded/jailbreaked it and they cant so they cant do anything to you. If it ever goes to court and I very highly doubt it $ony will have to prove it and as they can't you will win and get unbanned or whatever.

#31 - Chris9092 - 228w ago
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For anyone saying your just gonna block the sony servers, why don't you just disconnect from the internet?? What can you gain by having internet but no use for it?

Also, for anyone claiming that its YOUR console, you should probably start reading up on your manuals that come with almost everything now a days. You no longer OWN anything, you simply are leasing it for an indefinite amount of time. It is completely legal for the company to do anything they want. But will they? No

#30 - tonybologna - 228w ago
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Just to be cautious I was gonna block network access from my router. Well, when I singed into my router I don't have an "attached devices" tab. What's up with that?

We switched to a wireless router about 1 month ago and I hadn't checked that before. I know the previous router had an "attached devices" tab but not seeing it on this one. Hmm! Anybody know what may cause that problem?

I can't find any information on my exact router and problem either. I can block internet access(excluding my own personal network of course) from the PS3 console I guess but curious about what's up with not seeing that tab available from my router.

BTW, what are the PSN (Sony servers) domains that need to be blocked so I can add these when I get my router problem figured out? Can you just disable internet access from the PS3 and keep communication for your home network? If so, how is that done from the PS3? Thanks!

#29 - tilla - 228w ago
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Does the PS3 have the equivalent of a host file? Otherwise, I'll probably just blacklist playstation.net from my Router settings, suddenly they can't even tell I'm there

#28 - RT102 - 228w ago
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I seriously need to find a way to remove the jailbreak, err, homebrew. At least until the dust settles.

#27 - inginear - 228w ago
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i do not. my ps3 has remained on ofw 3.55 through all of this jailbreak/homebrew stuff. so i do not have any first hand experience with reading and writing to the dev_flash which where i think the list/file would be stored.

#26 - kunit1 - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by inginear View Post
as someone said earlier, just restore your firmware to a full ofw from sony and delete all the "homebrew" stuff off of the ps3. without the evidence still on the unit, there is no way for sony to prove that their logs have not been modified.


Do you happen to know that name of the .dat file that stores your "previously played games" ?

#25 - FMAranda - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by ElielV View Post
Anyways: SCEA will NEVER brick your console, that would do them to much harm and might be illegal. They might probably kick you from PSN.


Yes, Sony will never do that.

#24 - inginear - 228w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by kunit1 View Post
True. I am just going to disconnect my PS3 for now and wait till everything settles down and it becomes clear what Sony is planning to do. I just feel bad for being lazy and not disconnecting my PS3 from the internet when I installed the jailbreak

Sure hope Sony didn't start flagging PS3s yet.


as someone said earlier, just restore your firmware to a full ofw from sony and delete all the "homebrew" stuff off of the ps3. without the evidence still on the unit, there is no way for sony to prove that their logs have not been modified.

#23 - ElielV - 228w ago
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You guys should all move to europe (the Netherlands). Sony can't brick your PS3 or sue you for having homebrew or CFW on your PS3 even playing your own back-ups isn't illegal (the law here isn't really clear about that, but here we are aloud to make ourselfs a copy for private use). They might revoke your PSN, not sure about that though, because you need PSN to 100% (i.e. all functions) use your PS3.

SCEA are saying that by using CFW you are violating the PSN terms, but here in the Netherlands you have to be able to read the terms/license agreement before your purchase to be valid. That is not possible, because the agreement is on your PS3 and not outside the box.

Anyways: SCEA will NEVER brick your console, that would do them to much harm and might be illegal. They might probably kick you from PSN.

I understand if they kick people with pirated games, but please let us use homebrew!!

What do you guys think?