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January 11, 2011 // 8:08 pm - Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.

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Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."

Rumor: Sony to Remotely Disable JailBroken PS3s, PSN Bans?

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#82 - hacktek - January 20, 2011 // 1:44 am
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I can confirm this cuts psn access so not much different than simply pulling the cable or setting a manual ip with no gateway.

This idea seams feasible though, i think that the best thing would be for the backup managers to simply report some random game from a list instead of showing the backup manager name lol Don't really know how that works but if this is the only way for them to know a backup manager has been used then it seems pretty easy to defeat.

Another way would be to figure out which of those connections actually send the "last played" information and block that, although that can easily be changed by Sony in an upcoming update.

#81 - supernapalm - January 20, 2011 // 1:30 am
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PSN ban I suppose isn't that much of a biggie for me since I hardly play Online Games and the only full game i ever downloaded was Wipeout Fury. I'd still be annoyed though...

#80 - Thardus - January 19, 2011 // 11:44 pm
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I think it will stop access to psn but someone could add some code to a cfw that can upload the stats to a fake server or make the ps3 think it has sent the stats or whatever it sends.

#79 - hacktek - January 19, 2011 // 11:16 pm
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Thanks for the list, i will block them using iptables on a dd-wrt router. Does blocking these prevent access to PSN or does it just block the "undesirable" crap from Sony? If it does block PSN, how it it different than simply disconnecting the PS3 from the network or having it on the LAN only (with IP and subnet but without a default gateway)?


#78 - patrez - January 17, 2011 // 10:28 pm
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so here's my little list Ive put together:

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I hope that it helps someone.

#77 - Field - January 17, 2011 // 9:12 am
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It's a good fake if it is. I'm guessing that the info [name, mobile number] would have been acquired before the phone call was recording - thought that info would have been grabbed from an operator and then passed onto someone that might know info regarding account info. Hence the Jarrod - then Eric name mixup.

It's from Australia, which I would think would be one of the last to know, what is going on with the bans and such. Sony America would have a much better idea of upcoming bans, and they wouldn't tell some phone help guy the upcoming bans anyway.

Either the Sony rep really didn't know what was going on with the jailbreak/hacks/mod/bans or he wasn't able to inform the user. I'm leaning to the thoughts that the phone reps just work there, and are kept in the dark.

When I spoke to Aussie reps regarding xbox360 RROD, they basically read the info of a sheet on how to fix the console. I even told the bloke it was a 0102 error and yet he still wanted me to unplug the console and the hard drive.

#76 - d3adliner - January 17, 2011 // 6:49 am
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It is fake. Anyone who has ever called PS support knows that they always ask for your name, address, phone number and PS3 serial number pretty much straight off the bat - even if you don't want to give it to them they still ask.

#75 - PS4 News - January 17, 2011 // 6:23 am
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This could just be a made-up call recording, but saw this today:
SONY To begin permanently Banning and to release FW 3.60 to combat PS3 Jailbreak

Okay first off let me apologize about the really bad website layout right now as we are currently still a work in progress. Now with the latest news about Custom Firmware hitting PS3, and Geohotz incident many online users have been wondering if you can get ban. Now here is a phone call that someone has made to Sony Austrailia.

I have removed the download link here is a video link

Now clearly the caller asks multiple times whether his system will be banned, and the responce is a definite yes. Also he asked about whether he should Update to Firmware 3.60 and once again the responce iis yes. Not only that but they are permanently Banning the user from PSN.

We believe this is going to be a good move on Sony side, at least it will clear many of the hackers off the service and keep the online portion a little bit more safer from hackers.

#74 - daveshooter - January 17, 2011 // 12:55 am
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Yes it does bud, but once its been formatted in that same ps3, you can swop it out with another drive and it will format that drive, then you can now swap back and forth them same drives, as many times as you like without the ps3 needing to format them again. Remember tho not to put said drives in any other ps3 as it will format it if you let it, but you know this.

ps. Sorry I forgot to mention if you put a new drive in and it formats it, when you put the original drive back in it will as for PSN passwords again for your xmb account if I remember right.

#73 - junkthemighty - January 16, 2011 // 7:35 pm
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Sony somehow bricking all our PS3's is pretty unlikely. PSN bans seem pretty probable though. Hmm, I want a jailbroken system but then again I love me some PSN. Dilemma!