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227w ago - There have been quite a few articles about possible things that Sony could end up doing to try and stop PS3 homebrew, and here are all the potential solutions I have noticed thus far.

PS3's will start sending a recently played list to check for homebrew titles / flagged names:

Pretty obvious solution here. Just start naming the homebrews after currently existing titles, Or titles of bad games. Such as we can take the game name / BLUS for the game FLOCK (worst game ever that nobody will play) and install a master manager under that name.

So while it looks like everyone is playing FLOCK, We will actually be using a multimanager for FTP's, Backups, and Emulators.

Sony disabling update by USB in the next patch:

There are a few options we can take if we end up accidentally getting hit with this.

For people who update and can no longer install from usb:

Either the firmware will need a pre-installed pkg manager with firmware update options, Or they will have to do a dnas redirect to their computer to check for an update.

For people who have not updated to the new firmware that disables it:

Download the firmware and simply patch the firmware to alter the USB access as well so it does not get disabled to begin with!

Sub-level secondary key-signing program:

Well. in this sense, We would be absolutely screwed. If we were to install the firmware, Even with a pkg signer, We wouldn't be able to do a thing.

We would simply have to hope that someone would notice it uses a secondary keysign, find it in the firmware, and remove it before it becomes a problem.

How to truly help everyone there is for future firmwares:

We need a program with a GUI for firmware patching, Yeah I know one is out already, But it needs more OPTIONS! Options people!!!

We need a windows / linux firmware patcher with a GUI featuring the following options in the form of checkboxes.

  • Level 1 patching
  • Level 2 patching
  • Level 3 patching
  • Install PKG File option
  • Update from USB option
  • Playstation store links in VIDEO tab
  • Playstation store links in GAME tab
  • Check for firmware update on network connection establish

I am certain a gui windows / linux auto-patcher for all current firmwares would be WONDERFUL and would probably make the world a happier place.

Hell, I don't know of a single person who wouldn't want these options for an autopatcher.

Oh, And someone hurry up and figure out the npdrm so we can get an autopatcher for EBOOT's that works.


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#17 - d3adliner - 227w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by SexyVampiire View Post

Pretty obvious solution here. Just start naming the homebrews after currently existing titles, Or titles of bad games. Such as we can take the game name / BLUS for the game FLOCK (worst game ever that nobody will play) and install a master manager under that name.

So while it looks like everyone is playing FLOCK, We will actually be using a multimanager for FTP's, Backups, and Emulators.

That's a pretty horrible idea. Hmmm... large numbers of people suddenly playing the same game for no apparent reason would raise no flags?

Not to mention that FLOCK is actually a fun game. I can think of a pretty significant number of games that are far worse.

#16 - SexyVampiire - 227w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by PS3 News View Post
I moved these ideas/tips to our guides section and promoted it to the main page so that others can join in the discussion.

+Rep also SexyVampiire for taking the time to assess the current situation and share your thoughts and feedback on it.

Wow o.o That's a surprise, Thanks a ton! I would kill to see some of this stuff brought out.

Quote Originally Posted by Jes03 View Post
How about instead of trying not to get banned we wait and see what $ony do. So far there are no banned PS3s, no banned PSPs and I've said multiple times they cant ban any of their consoles due to the way it updates its firmware.

They won't and can't ban consoles so why even bother with trying to not get banned. It's illegal if they do.


I never said we had to do any of this, This is just a look into the future after thinking "If I were sony, What would I do to get rid of homebrewers with the next firmware"

these are just things to keep a lookout for and possibly take a look into just as some pre-emptive protection. like on those advertisements on tv where they show a car wreck and go "This is not the time to get insurance. NOW IS THE TIME!"

And...I personally have had a console banned. So...They do ban them.
Quote Originally Posted by UnXuthoriXeD View Post
i know iv seen a hack on one of these sites that alows u to change your PS3s id. dont remember where or if it works but iv seen it.

You probably saw the "Nickname" option on the japanese playstation network.

It MIGHT be possible to use an FTP to import settings from a japanese account over to your other region one to implement a nickname, But, Doubt it would be safe.

Quote Originally Posted by bonetoke View Post
just an innocent stupid question, is it possible for Sony to 'remotely' ban your ps3 console and you don't even have an internet connection?! excuse my ignorance

As long as your console is disconnected from the internet, Sony has absolutely no say in what you choose to do with it.

You dont connect to the net, You dont create a PSN account, And therefore, you didnt click accept on the ToS.

#15 - bonetoke - 227w ago
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just an innocent stupid question, is it possible for Sony to 'remotely' ban your ps3 console and you don't even have an internet connection?! excuse my ignorance

#14 - UnXuthoriXeD - 227w ago
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i know i've seen a hack that allows you to change your PS3's id. don't remember where or if it works but i've seen it.

#13 - ninjanutta2 - 227w ago
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whoever says they don't console ban is full of it, i've had a console ban from sony a couple of years ago for gamesharing, be under no illusions that they will not do this for hacking.

#12 - UnXuthoriXeD - 227w ago
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I'm pretty sure they have banned PS3s, just not for jailbreaking.

#11 - Jes03 - 227w ago
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How about instead of trying not to get banned we wait and see what $ony do. So far there are no banned PS3s, no banned PSPs and I've said multiple times they cant ban any of their consoles due to the way it updates its firmware.

They won't and can't ban consoles so why even bother with trying to not get banned. It's illegal if they do.

#10 - Tatsh2DX - 227w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by skribblenauts View Post
Wouldn't banning consoles also mean interruption/disruption of other services like Netflix and Hulu? Wouldn't that be a very bad idea for Sony to mingle in the affairs and revenue of these companies?

If and or when the bans happen, I'm sure it will hit the interwebs like a disease and I'll deal with it then.


Not really. Most people who pirate games aren't buying Netflix or Hulu either

Microsoft has several services you may only get with an unbanned console. NetFlix isn't complaining about the 1 million banned consoles in 2009.

#9 - Frogman7 - 227w ago
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I hope someone takes your suggestion and fakes the id of the game however most of us already have "bad" ids stored on our system I hope there is a fix for that.

I have a 3.15 Fat ps3 that as soon as I started Jailbreaking changed its network settings so that it could only connect to my pc for tversity. I'm really hoping some brilliant programmer finds a way.

#8 - weii - 227w ago
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Cannot say with certainty, but have some doubt that Sony will disable USB firmware update option. Because even though Sony has pretty much got themselves covered for the events that if your system is bricked or damaged while updating the firmware, but if they enforce updating firmware by Internet, problem of unsuccessful firmware updates and other related complaints could be massive.

More people are getting broadband access but Internet is still fragile, one simple communication error between server and PS3 could mean disaster. And Sony's servers are not exactly very reliable. Have read fair amounts of firmware being successfully downloaded with PS3 but still end up with error while trying to install them. So unless they do additional checks to ensure firmware is okay, enforcing Internet only firmware update is probably not happening yet.

Either way, in part, Sony can blame themselves for telling people what they want instead of listening to what people want. It is still happening and Sony is just too stubborn.