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74w ago - According to doskias on a Chinese BBS some Sony PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups have surfaced on Internet torrent sites and TTG Tracker with details below and additional pictures HERE, as follows:

  • Killzone Shadow Falls: 37.4GB
  • Knack: 39.3GB
  • Battlefield 4: 32.5GB
  • AC4 Black Flag: 20.22GB

Reportedly THIS ASUS Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS drive was used for ripping the PS4 / PlayStation 4 games with details on the PS4 External HDD Layout as well.

Both games contain single PKG that contains whole data, as well as "RIF" file that is used for storing purchase data to activate digital contents from PSN Store.

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This seems interesting and today I've got my Killzone SF and COD Ghost from gamestop. I tried loading them on my PS3′s BD-ROM it couldn’t read them. Maybe it was too obvious lol, however it seems that PC's BD-ROM could read them.

Update: Two more games are released as well. Can't really reveal the original source because they're so strict about their security. My friend is the one of the members over there.

Update #2: UP9000-CUSA00190_00-KZ4RELEASE000041

It looks just like the one of those PS3′s typical PKG files..

From PS3 scene profiteer GaryOPA: The problem with the new PS4 setup, is EACH DISC contains an unique LICENSE.RIF file that tracks the 'actual disc' itself on what PS4's it is used, and when it is first used, etc.

So a dump of disc if running on ODE, or CFW would be missing the 'unique tracking' codes, and would never activate on a PS4 console.

It is hard to do right now as you need to disassemble a PS4 to prove this 'unique tracking' code, but you can't play the same ACTUAL DISC in TWO PS4's at ONCE.

Of course this brings up the 'USED GAME' re-sell cause again, since the PS4 game discs use RIF just like PSN activate, Sony can at a push of a button disable your LICENSE for JUST that ONE ACTUAL GAME DISC, blocking the use of used game disc on OTHER systems.

The way 'gamediscs' are setup now they are basically PSN store versions on a 'disc'.

100% the same files, one giant PKG, a parma.sfo and rif file.

It does make a big of sense, management wise, handling game discs and digital psn is the same both from publisher and sony and os side. They could also now quickly release a PSN game that becomes a hot-selling into a retail gamedisc, just throw the file onto a disc.

They could now also release a time-limted or demo-gamedisc at the retail level but it really wouild be the full same gamedisc, you just input a code online or activate the FULL version from the PSN store.

Yep, t is possible the way PS4 games are lay out, you could basically burn your own, or install with usb stick, just then you need a 'full license' file activated from the PSN store to play it.

Nope, PS3 does not see them correctly, they more like normal PC Blu-Rays now, see this image from news post.

Update #3: Following up on his previous update, below are some additional details from Sony PlayStation 4 hacker SKFU (via skfu.xxx/2013/11/ps4-game-dumps-hdmi-fail-more.html):

PS4 - Game Dumps, HDMI Fail & more...

Sleeping sucks, you miss news of different timezones for sure. So, what did happen while I slept?

1) PS4 Game Dumps

According to an A9VG member, PS4 games can be dumped with a common PC Blu-Ray drive. It seems that already a few games were dumped, inlcuding Killzone, Knack, Battlefield4 and AC4. As soon as I get access to a disc or dump myself, I will do an analyse of the containing files.

2) HDMI Fail

What happens if you force students to build your Next-Gen console under pressure? Well, they might return you faulty HDMI jacks.

IGN, Kotaku and many more individual users report that their PS4 video output stopped working. The console apparently is unusable for those who experienced it.

3) For those who already received a console

Sadly i'm still looking for a PS4 unit, if you can help me to get one contact me.

In case you got a unit for yourself, here are some examples of what has to be tested:

  • Before powering up the unit for first time, make a 1:1 dump of the HDD
  • Explore the HDD dump
  • Dump a game disc
  • Burn the dump to an empty BD
  • Check if the PS4 recognizes the disc
  • Check any files which can be transfered from PS4
  • Savegames, etc
  • Install a modified firmware
  • Use my PS4FwTool
  • Extract 2 firmwares
  • Rebuild a new firmware based on both output
  • Possible brick! Do at your own risk!
  • Recovery menu should bring you back in case of faulty firmware, but only do this if you actually are aware of the risk and know what you do!
  • Sniff anything
  • Use SKFU's Proxy and/or Wireshark to check the network behavior
  • Find unencrypted traffic transfers
  • Modify the Companion Tool (iOS/Android)
  • Intercept game traffic between Companion Tool and PS4 game etc.

Happy hacking,

- SKFU

In summary:

Known working BDROM drives:

  • Asus BW-12B1ST (asus.com/Optical_Drives/BW12B1ST/)
  • Samsung DVDWBD SH-B083L (samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SH-B083L - Mediatek MT1939LSU controller)
  • LG BH16 Super Multi Blue (lg.com/global/supermulti/bluray_products/bh16.html)

Known not working BDROM drives:

  • LG BH10LS38 (lg.com/uk/support-product/lg-BH10LS38)
  • Panasonic UJ-240 Laptop Drive (No site available) (aka Matshita/Panasonic/Matsushita BD-MLT UJ240AS)


PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups Surface on Internet, Details

PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups Surface on Internet, Details

PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups Surface on Internet, Details

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#39 - xavierkiller - 25w ago
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someone know if exist cfw for ps4?

#38 - luxox18 - 61w ago
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anyone has found a way for dump files from pkg files? I want to take a look at the files from killzone, specifically the graphic files...

#37 - bald1 - 66w ago
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Hope they manage to do a CFW so it will give me a reason to start saving.

#36 - ZeroQI - 67w ago
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The result is a few gigs "*.imgc" file (compressed, gzipped maybe?), compatible with r-image. I am not sure you can decompress with 7zip but you can with "HDD Raw Copy Tool".

You can then convert the resulting img file (500GB then) into a variable size vdi with the following command if virtualbox is installed: "C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxManage" convertfromraw -format image.img image.vdi -variant Standard

It would be best to use a format that is usable in virtual machines (virtualbox, VMware Player, ESX) that is compressed/dynamic so you do not need 500gb free, so a dynamic vdi file make sense. I will try to see what happens when you run a x86-64 vm with 8gb ram with the given disk image as the Playstation OS (Orbit) is based on FreeBSD 9.0. Anybody know how to share few gigs file here ?

CPU: 8 core 8 threads 1.6ghz (max OC range of 2.75ghz) with 2 x 2 MB shared L2 cache, 28nm manufacturing process
Ram: 8GB GDDR5 5500 MHz 256-bit with system Memory Bandwidth: 176.0 GB/s
HDD: HGST HTS 545050A7E380 7mm 500gb single platter (636 Gbit/sq. in.), Sata 2 (3Gbps), Advanced Format (4k sectors), 5400rpm, 8MB cache, Weight: 95, Latency (average): 5.5 ms, Seek Time (average/typical read): 13 ms,
Power consumption (W): Startup peak (max): 4.5, Seek (average): 1.8, Read/Write (average): 1.6, Performance Idle (average): 1.5, Active Idle (average): 0.8, Low Power Idle (average): 0.55, Standby (average): 0.2, Sleep: 0.1
Graphics: AMD's A8-3850 APU and Radeon HD 7670 discrete graphics (AMD's Jaguar APU technology AMD R10xx ??)

Dev kit: http://www.ps4news.com/playstation-3-psn-news/ps4-orbis-final-devkit-specs-controller-and-account-system-rumors/

#35 - ZeroQI - 68w ago
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Before powering up the unit for first time, make a 1:1 dump of the HDD (used HDD Raw Copy Tool) to compress the image as it is built.

Disk HGST HTS 545050A7E380 configured as gpt disk

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#34 - Tidusnake666 - 74w ago
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Actually, not a big news.

"PC's BDR can read and dump PS4 discs". So what? Same thing happened to ps3 - we had an ability to dump ps3 isos nearly from the launch day. And what did it lead to? Nothing. These isos were unplayable (were encrypted) and the ps3 scene went to the completely other direction.

I'm not being sceptical, but please, keep your hopes straight. There's no use of dumping bdrs of ps4 as long as they encrypted - finding private key can take thousand years.

#33 - philo - 74w ago
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Considering that the disc is basically just the digital PSN package on a disc it doesn't surprise me the dumping is easy. I don't think dumping is gonna lead us to a useful hack. Frankly I don't think Sony is going to put much time into the discs and is concentrating on the console hardware/software.

As we all know from the XBOX 360 the disc drive is basically the weakest link in the chain usually. Besides only the pirates care about playing free games. The real enthusiasts are here for running their own code and homebrew.

#32 - mbison564 - 74w ago
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contact i can tell you where to get one

#31 - aleyasrod - 74w ago
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Nice

#30 - RasAlGhaul - 74w ago
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I'm not surprised, people can do anything when they put their collective mind (s) together

 











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