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November 8, 2010 // 11:58 pm - While Sony previously confirmed that developers will play a key role in building their next-gen console which is expected to arrive after the Microsoft and Nintendo counterparts, today PS4Sony.net (linked above) speculates that the PS4 won't include Ultra HD support.

Based on specifications from WiseGeek.com, they surmise the technology just doesn't seem feasible for next-gen consoles including the PlayStation 4.

To quote: "Today, Full HD offers up a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1080, whereas the new you-beaut Ultra HD offers a whopping max resolution of 7680 x 4320!

Ultra HD poses numerous practical problems for manufacturers seeking to bring the new format to consumers. The uncompressed video and audio recorded in ultra HD takes up high volumes of storage space - 3.5 terabytes for one 18-minute clip, requiring a hard disc weighing almost 600 pounds (272 kg).

The prototype ultra HD screen can use more electricity than an entire house might in one month. An early ultra HD camera weighs more than 100 pounds (45 kg).

I don't know about you but something just jumps out and screams "not enough bandwidth" in this picture. Even if Sony's new 1TB disc surfaces over the next few years, that's only sufficient enough to store a massive 6-and-a-bit minute Ultra HD movie!

Don't expect this technology to be anywhere close to be implemented within your PS4 console, regardless of Internet hype."

Speculation: No Ultra HD for Sony's Next-gen PS4 Console?

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#16 - Prince Valiant - November 9, 2010 // 9:02 am
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Quote Originally Posted by hacked2123 View Post
2 things. 1)ITS UNCOMPRESSED VIDEO of course its going to huge. 2)3.5TB fits on 2x3.5" hdd, weighing 2 to 3 pounds each... Why in the world would it take 600LBS?!?

I also 90% sure the PS3 can handle SNES at UHD resolution, 60fps. PS4 WILL support UHD, but don't expect intense video games to use it. (Take for example MGS4 for PS3 (720P title released fairly recently) )


I highly doubt Sony would waste money by adding UHD support when no one buying their consoles would make use of it. I mean.... can you honestly imagine the graphical requirements to display a higher end PS3 game at that resolution?

I never seen a UHD in real life, but hope to see one in the next years on some conferences. I don't think this TV's will be for private customers available in the next few years. I mean, who of us have so much space to stand there a 70" - 90" ? Let's wait and see what the time will bring.

People with absurd amounts of money maybe, that's about it. The video is uncompressed because it reads faster.

#15 - tborsje - November 9, 2010 // 8:56 am
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I would hope that 1080p with some AA @ 60fps (30fps if in 3D) would be the standard that MS and Sony would require for their developers in the next gen.

#14 - Kimd41 - November 9, 2010 // 8:06 am
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I'd rather have 1080p with x8 AA.

#13 - jokerbrazil - November 9, 2010 // 6:03 am
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That's a Big Regress. Larger TV , Larger Resolution , High Power Consumption and Hard Drive Requirement.

There's no Progress on this TV , never gonna make the market

Stone Age 80" TV with 7k x 4k resolution and big Toaster in consumption Versus Oled ultra slim and low power.

#12 - properBo - November 9, 2010 // 5:17 am
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Quote Originally Posted by hacked2123 View Post
You're most likely correct taking into account that its a bidding system to get integrated in the console. Hopefully MS and Nintendo release their systems first, only to find Sony held out for Quantum processors. (A lot can happen in 5 years )

I suppose we'll have to settle for 4K :-/

I subscribe to your opinion, sir.

#11 - Neo Cyrus - November 9, 2010 // 4:44 am
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Because you need a fast raid system to access 3.5tb in 18min. It has to be able to read about (3'500'000/18/60) 3'241mb/s. A normal consumer hard drive is still below 150mb/s. This means at least a 20 disk system...

Edit: Also remember, they built the system in 2005 when disks were smaller and slower than today.

Even if it did require 20 disks those things feel like they weigh a pound each, let's say 2, that makes it a total of 40lbs. Big difference between 40 and 600. By the time the PS4 lumbers its way into existence there will be fast enough hard drives with high enough capacity. The problem will be the medium which they sell games on. All games would have to be installed since of course the medium which the games will be stored on will not read fast enough.

As for your edit, how is that relevant, wasn't that absurd "600lb" statement recent?

#10 - Hazzy - November 9, 2010 // 4:07 am
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I doubt tech savy people will be content with fullHD in 5 years time but UHD is very unrealistic; however, 4K is much more likely. Also being a cinema format helps its progression into the mainstream.

#9 - oVERSoLDiER - November 9, 2010 // 2:56 am
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I never seen a UHD in real life, but hope to see one in the next years on some conferences. I don't think this TV's will be for private customers available in the next few years. I mean, who of us have so much space to stand there a 70" - 90" ? Let's wait and see what the time will bring.

#8 - phr0z30n - November 9, 2010 // 2:29 am
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Quote Originally Posted by hacked2123 View Post
2)3.5TB fits on 2x3.5" hdd, weighing 2 to 3 pounds each... Why in the world would it take 600LBS?!?

Because you need a fast raid system to access 3.5tb in 18min. It has to be able to read about (3'500'000/18/60) 3'241mb/s. A normal consumer hard drive is still below 150mb/s. This means at least a 20 disk system...

Edit: Also remember, they built the system in 2005 when disks were smaller and slower than today.

#7 - tilla - November 9, 2010 // 1:52 am
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Of course there won't be UltraHD, the TVs don't even actually exist for consumers and the PS4 is at most 3 years away. No install base. Literally 0. There is no one they could sell the feature to!