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Sony Apologizes for OtherOS Removal due to PS3 Piracy Concerns


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255w ago - Despite some refunds being granted, today Sony UK has officially apologized for the OtherOS removal in the recently released PS3 Firmware 3.21 update citing PS3 piracy concerns as the underlying factor.

To quote from Sony's official statement to Thinq.co.uk (linked above):

"We are sorry if users of Linux or other operating systems are disappointed by our decision to issue a firmware upgrade which when installed disables this operating system feature.

We have made the decision to protect the integrity of the console and whilst mindful of the impact on Linux or other operating system users we nevertheless felt it would be in the best interests of the majority of users to pursue this course of action.

As you will be aware we have upgraded and enhanced functionality and features of the console by numerous firmware upgrades over time and this is a very rare instance where a feature will be disabled. Further enhancements are in the pipeline.

Users do have the choice whether to install the firmware upgrade and this is clearly explained to them at the time the firmware upgrade is made available for installation. Furthermore our terms and conditions clearly state that we have the right to revise the PS3's settings and features in order to prevent access to unauthorised or pirated content."

Sony Apologizes for OtherOS Removal due to PS3 Piracy Concerns

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#43 - gygabyte666 - 255w ago
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Two simple words sum this all up:

Epic Fail!

#42 - sasoseso - 255w ago
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Sony has become like the prey when it hunted. it screams from the lion but brings more hyena.

"in the end they die"

#41 - StakFallT - 255w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by moneymaker View Post
Another slap in "their" face. This is stopping nothing.


Oh no, I'm sorry man. I meant the apology was a slap in the face; like it was supposed to make us feel ok with the OtherOS being removed, even though they knew it wouldn't. lol

#40 - fun4you2008 - 255w ago
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The real kicker is for those who don't want to update firmware for whatever reason, Sony will eventually lock you out of the PSN store. Because that is the only source for some games/content, and I cannot access it (pre-3.0 firmware - bypass doesn't work), how am I supposed to BUY DLC for my PS3?

The short sightedness is that Sony refuses to sell content to me, and one day in the future for those who want to keep Other OS. What else am I supposed to do? Sony is basically telling me the only way to get this content is to find *some other way*, because Sony won't sell it to me without the latest firmware.

What happens when Sony starts charging subscription fees for PSN? Sony is going to lock out even more users from buying content. Wow. Refuse money from paying customers. Force them to go elsewhere. Great marketing strategy! Good luck with that.

#39 - moneymaker - 255w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by StakFallT View Post
But I agree, this announcement they made was almost like a slap in the face.


Another slap in "their" face. This is stopping nothing.

Did they forced to update every owner of a PS3 which could be used for any non compliant use ? NO.
Every user with a linux compatible PS3 is a PPC64 assembler guru ? NO.
Was they really at a big risk ? NO.
Did they anyway fade away any risk (if any) ? NO.
Are they smart ? NO. This apology is only good to be used in a court against them.

They were still in time before 1st April to make it the biggest April Fool Joke ever made (with a lot of benefits for their public image), instead they decided to make it real... unbelievable... and now ? Sorry but's more secure ?.... for whom ?

Lets think a bit about it... if there are PS3 around which can be used to hack their code don't they are smart enough to think that not only the "hacking scene" it's still in time to to do what they don't want it could be done, but it's even more angry against their blindness and now with a very good reason to exit with a "take this" argument...

No, sorry, it's really foolish their behaviour...

Try to sell a car with ABS (claimed as a feature to sell the product) and then removing it in force of a license agreement cause "having ABS could lead to drive with less care thus we're removing it..." ..."or you update the electronic of your car or you will not be able anymore to open other doors except the driver one..cause we want to be sure that you cannot damage others with your driving style..."...and then coming out with a "sorry, we had to do it for everyone safety " ???

It's really unbelievable...

Maybe they were only searching for "the biggest wrong step in history at a corporate level" ?

Sure they haven't put on the plate the loss in trustfulness they had with this "masterpiece".

#38 - StakFallT - 255w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by victorinox View Post
i don't agree with you too much, i do think its sad that unless you actually did/tried the task you dont know how hard/easy it is... but nothing will fix that

i think the biggest trophy problem is the level system is Fed up... the average level 12 has 500 trophies, i got level 16 and 2,100+ how that is acceptable is beyond me.

well that's true... I'm all for trying to beat a game. Only real reason I mentioned the trophies really is to put the elephant in the room on the floor when I mentioned about game trainers, because I knew someone would mentioned trophies. ([i]Part of the problem I have posting in forums alot of times is I post my end thought instead of filling in the middle. I was trying to defend against a future possible point without really connecting to it lol.[i])

What I was getting at is, because trophies are so broke I don't see game trainers as a big deal. And see that's the other thing, I don't like how people can just grab up all these PSN games that last far less as long as most (granted, not all, but most) actual store bought ($50+ bucks) games and nab up a bunch of easy trophies. I think the % should come from how plat'ed you got all your store bought games. As it stands right now, it seems to me that the PSN store games trophies are -generally- much easier to get (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Granted there are some exceptions like the trophies in Pain are just absolutely disgusting. Flower was on par with difficulty, however, given how short the game is compared to like your general average game play length, ~25 hours, there shouldn't be trophies in that game. How that game's QA dept passed the trophies for Pain is beyond me. It'd be nice to have the ability (should I choose) to be able to balance a game, and I definitely do not like the trend of "power saves" I think that's freaking stupid. Why would I want to veer off of my own save to someone elses.

Other nice thing is trainers can provide some fun to a game, like the DOA:XVB trainer I mentioned earlier. I definitely agree, solid effort should be made to beating a game or achieving something, but there are just sometimes where it's not going to happen. (How people plat'd Pain is just beyond me). this is a perfect case where the QA dept has failed us, the player, and we have no recourse for rebalancing. Fortunately given the gameplay of Pain, balancing is not needed as it's not like a typical game, it's more of a physics simulation with points. I will say being unable to delete my Pain trophies is a cause for serious anguish.

#37 - victorinox - 255w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by StakFallT View Post
See I think a large portion of the trophy system is fundamentally flawed. For one, you can't delete trophies, so if the QA dept fails miserably on a game you didn't read reviews on but bought because it looked like it would be good, and you get like 1 trophy or whatever, but are most likely not going to get all of them or even remotely in the same galaxy as remotely close (Pain anyone?), you can't delete them.

Your overall % is now mucked up. another reason, trophies should show the classic universally accepted "gaming cred" that was the start of it: beating a particular game on a NES that was none to be somewhat hard or popular that others knew of. It shouldn't be this ridiculous crap of "You spent 120 hours playing our incredibly buggy RPG" (DA:O anyone?) and therefore have no life. I could go on and on about that game's trophies but I won't; rather I think I'd direct you to the social section of the bioware forums lol

But seriously, given how many gripes I have with the trophy system, I'm perfectly ok with game trainers. (and obviously I'm ok with emulation.). But I agree, this announcement they made was almost like a slap in the face.

i don't agree with you too much, i do think its sad that unless you actually did/tried the task you dont know how hard/easy it is... but nothing will fix that

i think the biggest trophy problem is the level system is Fed up... the average level 12 has 500 trophies, i got level 16 and 2,100+ how that is acceptable is beyond me.

#36 - StakFallT - 255w ago
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See I think a large portion of the trophy system is fundamentally flawed. For one, you can't delete trophies, so if the QA dept fails miserably on a game you didn't read reviews on but bought because it looked like it would be good, and you get like 1 trophy or whatever, but are most likely not going to get all of them or even remotely in the same galaxy as remotely close (Pain anyone?), you can't delete them.

Your overall % is now mucked up. another reason, trophies should show the classic universally accepted "gaming cred" that was the start of it: beating a particular game on a NES that was none to be somewhat hard or popular that others knew of. It shouldn't be this ridiculous crap of "You spent 120 hours playing our incredibly buggy RPG" (DA:O anyone?) and therefore have no life. I could go on and on about that game's trophies but I won't; rather I think I'd direct you to the social section of the bioware forums lol

But seriously, given how many gripes I have with the trophy system, I'm perfectly ok with game trainers. (and obviously I'm ok with emulation.). But I agree, this announcement they made was almost like a slap in the face.

#35 - victorinox - 255w ago
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I think a lot of people fail to see things, as they are the PSP for instance as said is a greatly flawed system... hell all most of the titles people play/want to buy are all ports of titles... and still tons of games come out for the psp reguardless of this or that =\

as far as the PS3 getting hackeed the people whom pirate, is FAR SMALLER than the people whom mostly rent, and the people whom mostly buy used/trade

80% of my trophies are from renting which in their eyes is really no different than piracy, but a lot of these people will say things about the games so more buyers could come of it... in the end though this was uneeded.

#34 - StakFallT - 255w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by otarumx View Post
And yet I still don't care about the removal of the OtherOS, I am not interested in hombrew, Emulation can be done on my PC and I don't care about pirating BD games as I bet most people that are moaning want to do. You can call it illegal, you can say it's just for homebrew or that it is our right or that a console should be open to any kind of code but in the end most people just want to play for free and that is what brought the complaints.

I would say that's categorically not true. For me, it is about homebrew (and game trainers). My original xbox had a custom dashboard that I played emulation on all the time. And the game trainers were pretty fun too; DOA:XVB nude patch, gotta love it (lol) But really, the reason: Playing emulation on a video game console just has a different feel. For the same reason you buy a PS3 game on the PS3 when you can (most of the time) just as easily buy it for the PC. The feel.

Combine that with the fact that it's probably easier to pirate on PC than PS3; why would anyone who would want to pirate, go the ps3 route? It wouldn't make sense, unless there's a game or two here or there that isn't out for PC, and while that could be a plausible argument, the fact remains that, for the amount of effort needed to break the PS3 that to pirate for just a game here or there is simply not worth it. Granted you could argue that people want to pirate on the ps3 for "the feel", but I'd point back at the equally if not overpowering argument of the effort vs. reward for just a game or two here and there.

 

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