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259w ago - As if there weren't enough class action lawsuits filed recently for the removal of OtherOS on PS3, IGN reports that yet another lawsuit (PDF) is brewing against Sony and Square Enix over Final Fantasy XIII freezing and in some cases breaking the user's PlayStation 3 entertainment system.

To quote: "The lawsuit, filed on June 2, 2010 by Daniel Wolf of San Diego, Calif., alleges Final Fantasy XIII has caused 'severe and widespread damage' to Sony PS3 gaming systems since its release on March 9, 2010.

The lawsuit states that, for many consumers playing Final Fantasy XIII, has 'caused their PS3 consoles to freeze and become totally and permanently inoperable.'

Wolf said he purchased a copy of Final Fantasy XIII the day it was released, and when attempting to save his game, his PS3 became unresponsive and would no longer play any other media after restarting it.

The suit also alleges that both Sony and Square Enix blamed the issue on one another. Square Enix said the issue resulted from Sony's console, and Sony blamed the issue on a faulty Final Fantasy XIII game disc. Neither company allegedly offered to cover the cost of repairing PS3 consoles.

The class seeks more than $5 million in damages and other financial relief."

Sony and Square Enix Sued for Final Fantasy XIII Freezing on PS3

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#15 - PSPSwampy - 259w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
As this is a class action lawsuit, the 5 million dollars would be spread out over all those affected, which could be quite a lot. Even if it wasn't, $ony and the rest of the RIAA frequently get unreasonable damages when they sue people (wasn't it like 20 million for 10 songs?). It appears to me the S-E or $ony was negligent here if this is a widespread issue. Even if it is due to 7200RPM drives, that modification is officially supported by $ony.

As for me, I'm glad I played the 360 version

Totally agree with you dude - i can't believe everyone else moaning about this - it is 5million for a CLASS ACTION afterall. (Still a lot in my opinion, but then again it depends how many PS3's are actually affected)

Also worth pointing out the fact that this can only be SONY's fault - the developers have severe restrictions on what they can/can't do due to that annoying hypervisor issue - therefore sony MUST be at fault because they're specifically allowing dev's access to something which is causing the problem.

If it's related to replacement hard drives, which are allowed by sony then again it is sony's fault.

Anyway - that's my thoughts on this. It's only an opinion, so please treat it as such.

PSPSwampy.

#14 - GooeyFinger - 259w ago
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I had a 3 month old slim that broke while playing that game. It wouldn't play any other disc after a game of FF13 froze on me. had to send it in for a free replacement. Lost some game saves that weren't transferable. It's bull that a piece of software sold as a retail game could cause damage to the system that it was intended being played on.

#13 - Kraken - 259w ago
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As this is a class action lawsuit, the 5 million dollars would be spread out over all those affected, which could be quite a lot. Even if it wasn't, $ony and the rest of the RIAA frequently get unreasonable damages when they sue people (wasn't it like 20 million for 10 songs?). It appears to me the S-E or $ony was negligent here if this is a widespread issue. Even if it is due to 7200RPM drives, that modification is officially supported by $ony.

As for me, I'm glad I played the 360 version

#12 - Reaper2122 - 259w ago
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As the guy a couple posts back said that most of them hadn't used it in a environment with proper ventilation or they changed the system itself by putting in a 7200 rpm drive which will in ff13's case will bring it to death heh

#11 - croft72 - 259w ago
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I can really assume from the report I read that the 5 million dollars was for all the PS3's that were damaged.

#10 - Warrorar - 259w ago
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I think it's sony's fault, because the same happend to me with Tekken 6.. and my brother with Motorstorm.

3 completly different game companies and all are making the same mistakte that the console gets inoparable? i don't think so.

Sony should fix this bugs or insert sub routines for prevending those problems instead of blaming other companies for their dumb programmers...

#9 - GrandpaHomer - 259w ago
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Umm - sadly - quite a lot of original / phat (as well as new / slim ones though indeed) PS3s is dying regularly all the time and taking in consideration FFXIII is surely stretching the limits of PS3 hardware it's quite logical a few from the over all amount (100 from how many millions) will simply die under stress of the game.

Also - without proper evaluation of each of the damaged PS3s as well as the condition they were used into (were they for example properly ventilated or were they upgraded with 7.200 RPM hard drives etc. etc.) it's almost impossible to specifically point out the exact cause of the failure (as it's almost never only just one element).

So - while there could be a bit of "help" from FFXIII in killing those machines ("last straw" situation), proving so above any doubts would be practically impossible and my guess would be that the lawyer(s) in this case is/are playing on the fact that one or other company will offer / accept settlement out of court to avoid the "bad" publicity ...

#8 - Tidusnake666 - 259w ago
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Seems odd as hell to me as lawyer because:

1. How the hell will he prove that only that specific disk (FF13) caused this damages? Not Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted or he damaged it as well accidentaly or on purpose, but the damage was caused only by FF13? He need to call some few-hundred dollars expert group to make conclusion.

2. And yeah, how can the sum brought to the court (5 millions) exceed sum of damages (nearly 700$ at best, not to think that his console surely wasn't new, so it should be labeled as "used" this way, if gurantee perios is over he should get restorations as for the "used" console), is 4 999 300$ a sum of moral damages? LMAO

#7 - zangetsu1 - 259w ago
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It also happend to me.. In my case it is my 1TB hdd that got killed... Think about all those movies pictures and music...

No matter how hard I tried... the Console frozed up on me when trying to boot up...

had to re insert the 60 GB drive... But still 5 million dollars... C'mon man..

#6 - b0mber21 - 259w ago
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I find it odd that Sony and Square-Enix are fighting over what is most likely Square-Enix's fault in the first place. To me it seems neither of the companies want to refund the PS3's and pay the $5 Million in damages because of what had happened.