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Rumor: Sony to Remove OtherOS in Next PS3 Firmware Update


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267w ago - Update: Sony's Geoff Levand has now confirmed, to quote: "SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the 'Install Other OS' feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases."

According to Owen Stampflee, a Linux Product Manager at Fixstars Corporation, Sony will remove OtherOS in the next PS3 Firmware update due to the recent GeoHot PS3 Hack.

Although this comes as no surprise to PlayStation 3 Slim owners, where OtherOS is already removed, it would contradict Sony's previous statement to standard PS3 owners.

To quote: "Everyone,

I've caught a rumor from a reputable source that the next firmware update for old PS3s will remove the OtherOS feature...

I'm not sure if it's true or not but it's in the best interest of the YDL community to spread the word.

Cheers,
Owen"

Rumor: Sony to Remove OtherOS in Next PS3 Firmware Update

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#17 - sapperlott - 267w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by Tsusai View Post
So out of curiosity where would it leave the non-consumer base buyers like the Airforce, who use these for cluster farms?
In deep crap, I guess

Might be interesting to watch the cbe-oss-dev list in the next few days since this rumor will hit this list sooner or later and the Sony PS3 Linux head honchos (Geoff and Geert) post there, too: http://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/cbe-oss-dev/2010-February/thread.html

Here's a quote from Geoff:
Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the "Install Other OS" feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases.

Source: http://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/cbe-oss-dev/2010-February/007189.html

Quote Originally Posted by ionbladez View Post
I figured they would move to this. If I had a PS3 I would go straight for the RAM directly instead of using linux to read/write.

A debug probe and a microcontroller is enough to read/write after exploitation.
Boy - I would really like to see how you do that. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. This isn't a chunk of slow SRAM on a microcontroller - we're talking about GHz signalling rates here paired with a proprietary (and not publically documented) memory bus. Try to tap into that with a microcontroller...

#16 - CodeKiller - 267w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by semitope View Post

This just to stop piracy? Their competitors arent taking measures that screw over consumers (for the most part) so why are they.


Err.. you mean no x360 bans? no 3rd party expansion blocking?

#15 - mckarlsson - 267w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by Raze1988 View Post
Man, they really wanna protect their baby... I already saw Homebrew on the horizon, now they already begin to take it away from us?

I hope not perhaps someone will find a way to let us the otheros opinion with a custom FW

#14 - semitope - 267w ago
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This is getting nasty. If you can't play certain games without updating but you don't want to update because you lose otheros... what do you do?

This just to stop piracy? Their competitors arent taking measures that screw over consumers (for the most part) so why are they. Sony is going to come out of this generation stinking very badly I think. Next gen they might not even be in the running anymore.

Ideally an update should never deprive the consumer of what they bought the system for and if it does, it should not directly or indirectly be mandatory.

Add this to the voice chat nonsense and sony is getting rather greedy. These companies can't be satisfied with just turning a profit I guess... they need to continue growing at any expense

#13 - Raze1988 - 267w ago
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Man, they really wanna protect their baby... I already saw Homebrew on the horizon, now they already begin to take it away from us?

#12 - shummyr - 267w ago
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That would be interesting if there were leaks of these sony only firmwares for the general public.

#11 - zentsang - 267w ago
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So I already have a Linux OS installed on the hard drive. When this firmware comes out, and if it does in fact removed OtherOS, what happens to the existing partition? Will I simply lose the ability to switch to the already installed Linux OS from the menu?

Will the partition get deleted and the free space reclaimed by the main PS3 OS or will the free space remain unclaimed?

I realize the EULA states they can change things, but since I have used it like a standard computer for email, bookmarks, pictures, etc ... what ... they can just delete it without checking if personal data would be lost?

I can totally see a class action occurring if people lose data without being given an official heads up and sufficient time to backup their stuff. Wow.

#10 - CJPC - 267w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by inginear View Post
plus, companies like the air force and other research firms that use the power of linux on the ps3s hardware probably have a different support channel to sony than the end users do.


Oh, with ease - for instance, just on the general PS3 line there are so many different types of custom sony-only firmwares that have never seen the light of day, would not be hard to keep support for a "linux only" firmware, in fact it could actually be safer if a linux only firmware was around - no chance of "hacking" the GameOS part!

#9 - inginear - 267w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by CJPC View Post
Simple - they don't upgrade. I mean, the only need to upgrade is for "end user" stuff, re-validation of disk certs for the blu-ray player, certs for PSN, firmware upgrades for games and whatnot.

plus, companies like the air force and other research firms that use the power of linux on the ps3s hardware probably have a different support channel to sony than the end users do.

since the cell is so different from other processor architectures i'm sure that sony has departments set up to help with issues for those firms that are programming/coding custom proprietary applications for use with the cell. more than likely the companies have to sign nda so as to protect against any "inside" info getting out to the public.

#8 - ionbladez - 267w ago
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I figured they would move to this. If I had a PS3 I would go straight for the RAM directly instead of using linux to read/write.

A debug probe and a microcontroller is enough to read/write after exploitation.

 


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