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February 19, 2010 // 12:00 pm - Update: Sony's Geoff Levand has now confirmed, to quote: "SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the 'Install Other OS' feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases."

According to Owen Stampflee, a Linux Product Manager at Fixstars Corporation, Sony will remove OtherOS in the next PS3 Firmware update due to the recent GeoHot PS3 Hack.

Although this comes as no surprise to PlayStation 3 Slim owners, where OtherOS is already removed, it would contradict Sony's previous statement to standard PS3 owners.

To quote: "Everyone,

I've caught a rumor from a reputable source that the next firmware update for old PS3s will remove the OtherOS feature...

I'm not sure if it's true or not but it's in the best interest of the YDL community to spread the word.


Rumor: Sony to Remove OtherOS in Next PS3 Firmware Update

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#27 - androvsky - February 19, 2010 // 11:15 pm
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Where did Owen Stampflee post that information? It's not on the YDL boards that I've been able to see...

Edit: Never mind, managed to find a couple links back to the original post. Which has been deleted. Maybe his source wasn't as reliable as he thought?

#26 - aries2k6 - February 19, 2010 // 11:14 pm
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Hmm, i don't know but I don't see this happening. I thought they couldn't remove features that were already included in the console when you bought it?

I think this would lead to a lot of hate against Sony and even increase efforts to hack and pirate it. Just like one user said, what happens to the Linux partition. do you just suddenly lose all your valuable information with a FW update?

But with Sony who knows. I'm going to wait and see what develops before commenting more.

#25 - livpool - February 19, 2010 // 10:37 pm
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It's doubtful to happen and even if it does, simple. set up a PS3proxy so you don't ever have to update, (that includes going online without having to update) and then when the software hack is out someone can flick the switch and turn otherOS back on.. its in the software so its definitely possible.

#24 - SCE - February 19, 2010 // 10:35 pm
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IMO, this is a desperate move from Sony. Removing OtherOS will not be enough to prevent piracy. If devs find holes in the HyperVisor, Sony must have to change the whole code I think, correct me if I am wrong though.

And even if Geohot's hack can not be applied on Slim, this does not mean Slim is secure.. Like we saw in the past, thanks to modchips, both fat and slim will taste piracy.

I do not condone piracy, I believe people who produce quality games deserve support, but in countries where PS3 games cost 1/4 of people's salary, piracy will show up for sure... Here comes the cat and mice fight...

#23 - bostwick - February 19, 2010 // 10:23 pm
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I have been worried about losing otheros since slims came out. A rumor is just a rumor. Sony can patch exploit and we can all move on with using our otheos.

I mean i would have waited for less expensive slim and bought that if Sony did not offer otheros option. I mean history repeats it self. Look at ps2. They took away linux support with newer slimmer consoles. Yea yea i know the disks worked but no hard drive.

Other side note: the cheapest netbooks (my opinion) can outperform ps3 linux at its current crippled state. Sorry but it is true other then a couple of program written by fixstars for encoding. I mean 300 dollars can get you acer aspire one with wirless n card. with flash. ready to go. I wont argure my last statments because they are my opinion.

#22 - semitope - February 19, 2010 // 10:10 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by CodeKiller View Post
Err.. you mean no x360 bans? no 3rd party expansion blocking?

Live bans arent the same. You've broken the agreement and are banned. Nothing too wrong there. 3rd party expansions werent something people bought the 360 for...

#21 - Reaper2122 - February 19, 2010 // 10:04 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by veggav View Post
LOL I guess is a little bit too late now.

Since, to me, PS3 online game play sucks two monkey balls at the same time, this is not a problem. Since PSN has nothing good to offer and if you really want something from there, maybe in the future with the exploit you will be able to download from top sites and use it, this is not a problem.

1. If you want to play online, buy an X-Box 360, the live rocks.
2. If you want something from PSN, (what would you want from there?) wait a little bit.

My ps3 is really off the internet for almost 6 months, 1 year. Sony should have learned from the past, ps1 was only a huge seller because of piracy, ps2 the same.

Fan-Boy much? and ps1 piracy was not very big ps2 slightly higher but not by much and if ps3 does get it well then they YES will sell much more but without piracy a lot of companies might have gone out of business slowly but surely.

#20 - lilshortwun - February 19, 2010 // 10:03 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by zentsang View Post
So I already have a Linux OS installed on the hard drive. When this firmware comes out, and if it does in fact removed OtherOS, what happens to the existing partition? Will I simply lose the ability to switch to the already installed Linux OS from the menu?

Will the partition get deleted and the free space reclaimed by the main PS3 OS or will the free space remain unclaimed?

I realize the EULA states they can change things, but since I have used it like a standard computer for email, bookmarks, pictures, etc ... what ... they can just delete it without checking if personal data would be lost?

I can totally see a class action occurring if people lose data without being given an official heads up and sufficient time to backup their stuff. Wow.

What are you talking about. I think this is just a rumor most likely started by some person who is against piracy. Moreover, you can bet that Sony is coming up with a solution to patch this exploit from occurring again in the near future.

OtherOS will most likely still be there, just difference is that it will have even tighter security than ever to prevent this kind of attack. Just like the RSX graphics exploit, I highly doubt they will leave OtherOS users hanging just because of this.

#19 - adrianc1982 - February 19, 2010 // 9:52 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by semitope View Post
This is getting nasty. If you can't play certain games without updating but you don't want to update because you lose otheros... what do you do?

This just to stop piracy? Their competitors arent taking measures that screw over consumers (for the most part) so why are they. Sony is going to come out of this generation stinking very badly I think. Next gen they might not even be in the running anymore.

Ideally an update should never deprive the consumer of what they bought the system for and if it does, it should not directly or indirectly be mandatory.

Add this to the voice chat nonsense and sony is getting rather greedy. These companies can't be satisfied with just turning a profit I guess... they need to continue growing at any expense

I dont think sony will get affected by such a decision, most of their costumers buy a ps3 because its a GAMING machine. It also has free online play and the average joe doesnt care about linux, most dont even know it exists.

Dont think as an above user, think as an average user because thats how the market works. Apple has done this for years they are actually close to renting you the device you own like an iphone, ipad but that didnt bite them in the ass. Corporations give the end user a device thats not free to use as they want but focuses on something and we as costumers pay for that something the machine focuses on.

They will remove otheros and no body except us will care and guess what sony can live without us. In fact if they remove it I will keep buying games and their next generation console, because we want it to play games right? What did you buy your console for? linux? well I think its far cheaper and easy to get an average pc since we dont have acceleration anyway...

#18 - thering - February 19, 2010 // 9:29 pm
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Quote Originally Posted by CodeKiller View Post
Err.. you mean no x360 bans? no 3rd party expansion blocking?

Sure, Microsoft is by no means "clean" either, but their system hasn't been advertised as being compatible with 3rd party addons, whereas the PS3 has been marketed as being capable of installing another OS for awhile now.