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199w ago - Update: Sony has now confirmed the news via ArsTechnica stating, to quote: "The new CECH-3000 series PS3 requires HDMI only for BD movie output in HD, in compliance with AACS standards, PS3 continues to support component output for HD gaming and streaming content."

Today Kotaku (linked above) reports news of a rumor that Sony may be removing HD downscale for the component output on new 'K' PS3 Slim models making an HDMI cable mandatory for them.

To quote: "A tipster sends us rumored word (and image) of an incoming replacement model for the 160GB PlayStation 3 which brings with it a change in the way some people will hook the console up to their HD television.

The new "K" chassis, which Sony will begin shipping to retailers this week, will require customers to use an HDMI cable to play a game or watch a movie in high definition, according to the tipster. The component out, which on all other models supports high definition video modes, will no longer do so, according to a memo apparently sent around at GameStop today.

All future models of the PS3, the memo continues, will require an HDMI cable for high definition output. Previous models will not be updated to require HDMI for high definition viewing.

Finally, as GameStop puts it, offering the HDMI cables to customers picking up a PS3 will "also help you drive add-on sales.

We've reached out to PlayStation for comment on the rumor and to ask why, if it's true, the change is being made.

While we still haven't heard from PlayStation with an official response, it sounds like this move could have something to do with the AACS Final Adopter Agreement."


Rumor: Sony to Remove HD Downscale on PS3 Slim K Models?

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#16 - manutdgeo - 199w ago
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downgrade ? what do you mean by that , doesn't component output even 1080p, why downgrading ?

#15 - leukotic - 199w ago
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Not surprised they are making it so component only does SD, after all the component output was basically referred to as the 'analog hole' in which these companies cannot enforce their copyright/DRM protections on. But hey, all good for them, but I guess they haven't heard of a device called HDFury.

HDMI -> component is very easy to do. I have had the ability to record unrestricted HD from HDMI for a few years now, plus the way I have it setup I don't have to switch video outputs (like you would if you were using HDMI but wanted to record via component). I just record on-demand anytime I want with the help of the HDFury2 and a HDMI splitter.

#14 - CodeKiller - 199w ago
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At least CFW can save the day! i'm already using 720p on RGB

But for unmodified use, this will generate a lot of potential buyers for an HDfury3 or alike. (bit pricey though)

#13 - Xalies - 199w ago
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People blame Sony for everything ... This is not a bad thing IMO as the majority of users would be using HDMI for their HD content anyway ...

#12 - barrybarryk - 199w ago
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Because the new AACS spec restricts component output to 480i/576i (depending on region) as a form of content protection, it's why HDMI even exists, you'll not be able to even select HD resolutions for the system menu.

It's been this way for every device made since December, this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone since it was in the draft spec released years ago.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/aacs-hdmi-kill-component-2010

An article on the details from feb 2010.

#11 - GrandpaHomer - 199w ago
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Still don't understand why would they block (apart of laziness) BOTH BD video and game output ... This is also not good because there is plenty of people recording their PS3 gaming in HD using the component outputs (like via Hauppauge HD USB PVR) or even to broadcast the game matches for various community events live and so on and all this will stop working with new PS3 models.

So those defending Sony here and telling us to read first prior posting - maybe YOU should read first as I see no a single logical / legal reason behind stopping gaming HD output via component as well as playing my own video library (be it recordings from HD camera or any non BD video file).

#10 - barrybarryk - 199w ago
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Sony, Microsoft, Intel, IBM, Warner Bros., Panasonic and Disney are all founders of the Advanced Access Content System Licensing Administrator (AACS LA), so you'll find Sony had very little to say on the subject.

But it doesn't stop SD output like people seem to be suggesting, just HD over component connections and none of the older units are affected. I'm normally the first one to point out when Sony do something ridiculous but this isn't one of those times.

#9 - dulal - 199w ago
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funny how lots of ppl doesn't know except how to complain and flame others.. anyway at least this site has less trolls then any other ps3 hacks so i'm glad and thank you so much to barrybarryk for explaining. i hope ppl read this before writing something dumb.

#8 - mmanolos - 199w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by barrybarryk View Post
It's nothing to do with Sony, the Blu Ray AACS standard changed

Ok but "It's nothing to do with Sony"? Am I wrong or Sony (and others) OWNS the Blu Ray standards??

#7 - elser1 - 199w ago
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i don't see the big deal.. this is good news if anything.