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128w ago - A few weeks ago we reported that on the rumor that PlayStation 4 developer kits were shipping and based on the AMD A10, and now PSM3's German edition (via TheGNet) has shared some new PS4 (Orbis) rumor details below.

To quote from Gameranx.com (linked above): "First off, the magazine states that the PS4 won't even be named the PS4. While it will still have the "PlayStation" name attached to it, there won't be a number 4 next to it.

The reason is that the number 4 is pronounced "Shi" in Japan and in Chinese. "Shi" also has the same sound as "death" so that makes it a very unlucky number for a lot of people in the world. It's so reviled that "many hospitals in Japan have therefore no room with the number 4 or even a fourth floor - similar to a few high-rise buildings in the West no 13th Floor have."

The PS4's codename, which is now known as Orbis, could even be part of the final name. For the rest of the details, read on below (via NeoGAF).

Second Games of the first generation will look like the high-end PC demos on watchdogs and Star Wars 1313 or Square Enix's Luminous tech demo.

  • PS4 demos to be shown by Sony at E3 2013th
  • PS4 games will not run well at 4K 'Ultra HD' resolution.
  • The standard resolution of the PS4 should be at 1080p and 60 fps.
  • If 4k can be used, then probably only for videos.
  • Used games are not readily run on the PS4.
  • Sony is planning certain protections in the PS4, including perhaps an online pass or something similar.
  • The memory should be at 4GB to 8GB
  • The PS4 will probably have 4GB of memory, but in the end could have 8GB: If the Microsoft Xbox 360 successor have 8GB memory, then Sony would be put under pressure and should follow suit.
  • 16GB flash memory are planned.
  • The PS4 will not be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
  • Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account.
  • The paid premium service PlayStation Plus will be an important pillar of the PS4.
  • Every PS4 should be shipped with a PS Move compatible controller and camera.
  • Classic games will be available via cloud gaming (Gaikai).
  • "In-Game" Advertising is to keep on the PS4 collection.
  • The console will use an AMD Accelerated Processor (4 cores). The chip carries the code name "Liverpool" and is produced in a 28-nanometer process.
  • The PS4 will cost about EUR 400 to EUR 500 in Europe, where Sony has here probably expect to lose.

According to the post, Sony has not commented, denied or confirmed the info listed above."

From Gsak (via neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500106) comes another translation as follows:

Forecast: Details about PS4 from PSM3 Magazine

16.11.12 - The British magazine PSM3 has published in its latest issue a report on the PS4. In it, the magazine has compiled all relevant notifications to next generation console from Sony and talked to developers and other sources.

1. The console does not mean PS4

  • The PlayStation brand will be present in the device name, but not the 4th
  • The number 4 in Japan is pronounced "shi". "Shi" also means death. Many hospitals in Japan have therefore no room with the number 4 or even a fourth floor - similar to a few high-rise buildings in the West no 13th Floor have.
  • The code name of the console is - as reported - currently Orbis and could perhaps later be part of the final name.

2. Games of the first generation will look like the high-end PC demos on watchdogs and Star Wars 1313 or Square Enix's Luminous tech demo.

  • PS4 demos to be shown by Sony at E3 2013th

3. PS4 games will not run well at 4K 'Ultra HD' resolution.

  • The standard resolution of the PS4 should be at 1080p and 60 fps.
  • If 4k can be used, then probably only for videos.

4. Used games are not readily run on the PS4.

  • Sony is planning certain protections in the PS4, including perhaps an online pass or something similar.

5. The memory should be at 4GB to 8GB

  • The PS4 will probably have 4GB of memory, but in the end could have 8GB: If the Microsoft Xbox 360 successor have 8GB memory, then Sony would be put under pressure and should follow suit.

6. 16GB flash memory are planned.
7. The PS4 will not be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
8. Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account.
9. The paid premium service PlayStation Plus will be an important pillar of the PS4.
10. Every PS4 should be shipped with a PS Move compatible controller and camera.
11. Classic games will be available via cloud gaming (Gaikai).
12. "In-Game" Advertising is to keep on the PS4 collection.
13. The console will use an AMD Accelerated Processor (4 cores). The chip carries the code name "Liverpool" and is produced in a 28-nanometer process.
14. The PS4 will cost about EUR 400 to EUR 500 in Europe, where Sony has here probably expect to lose.

Sony has not commented or confirmed the information.

Finally, from VGLeaks to quote: Hi everybody and Happy New Year !!! We expect many great things for the new year.

To inaugurate the new year we have some new info about the next generation console manufactured by Sony: Orbis.

In this case we have the earlier roadmap.

  • 2011 June/July - PC with Win7 64-bit and a "jailbroken" ATI r9 graphics card
  • 2011 Sept/Oct - PC with Win7 64-bit and a "jailbroken" ATI r10 graphics card
  • 2012 Q1 - disclosure to more developers
  • 2012 E3 - potential unveiling window start
  • 2012 Jul - devkits for engineers writing OS
  • 2012 Q3 - first true hardware prototype devkits
  • 2013 E3 - potential unveiling window end
  • 2013 Q4 - launch


Rumor: PS4 (Orbis) Details Revealed by German PSM3 Magazine

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#35 - edwardecl - 128w ago
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But why are Sony choosing X86 over ARM? The fact that Sony is changing architectures so much recently must really annoy developers...

PS1 = MIPS
PS2 = MIPS
PSP = MIPS
PS3 = CELL/PPC
VITA = ARM
PS4 = X86 ?!?

If it's ever modded at least you should be able to play some PC and some old Xbox games... and have outdated inefficient architecture.

#34 - CREEPSHOW - 128w ago
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i will not get the ps4 till the price drops down on it i will stick with my ps3

#33 - Mohnews - 128w ago
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*Used games are not readily run on the PS4.!!!

because of that point, my ps3 will be the last road. I'll switch to next XBOX.

#32 - kingtetheruler - 128w ago
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Can't wait to see it

#31 - Yagamiar - 128w ago
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In Argentina, Orbis is a boiler'ss and oven's brand.

#30 - sorg - 128w ago
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Actually, i don't see the point of BC with PS3. It only makes console too complicated and stop progress because you cannot change architecture much without losing BC. You can continue to use PS3 for PS3 games at the same time as PS4 for newer games.

It's simply impossible to emulate Cell CPU on x86 CPU in real time. Putting Cell CPU as second to x86 is lame too because to much heat and high price. At the end, PS3 didn't die without PS2 BC. Most likely, very popular PS3 games will be re-released for PS4.

#29 - dsavage - 128w ago
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lol at no bc with ps3. gotta love how much sony has changed on the whole bc front... before they were all for it, now they could care less about it.

ps death is such an ironic name... with all these restrictions and no bc it just could be the death of the playstation brand.

#28 - kalberto - 128w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by boxbundy View Post
Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account???

what if you don't have an internet connection? surely sony can't do this. playstation death is the appropriate title for it if they do. I wouldn't buy one if this is the case for 100% sure and certain.

You can ask the store to register your games.

#27 - HeyManHRU - 128w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by NTA View Post
7. The PS4 will not be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
8. Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account

At least wii u has bc for wii games

These two "facts" annoy me the most, especially the first one.

#26 - tilla - 128w ago
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These don't really sounds that reliable and seem to contradict things we've already heard (like the hard drive space)