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Rumor: PlayStation 4 (PS4) Developer Kits Shipping, AMD A10 Based


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121w ago - Following up on the previous PlayStation 4 rumors, today VG247 (linked above) reports that Sony's PlayStation 4 (PS4) developer kits are now shipping and utilize the AMD A10 series as a base.

Below are the details, to quote: "Developers are currently taking receipt of a new PlayStation 4 dev kit, VG247 has been told today, with a final version slated to appear in January. Yes, it'll have Blu-ray. No, it isn't being made in Japan.

Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 today that a new version of the Orbis kit is now shipping to developers, and that it's housed in a normal PC case.

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a "modified PC," and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers "next summer".

Some US developers attended a "disclosure meeting" at Sony's offices this week, with a further meeting to take place in the coming weeks. The purpose of the meeting is for Sony to tell studios what the machine is designed to do, to detail hardware and to show a set of presentations.

Our source told us that Sony is only calling the machine Orbis, and is not using the words "PlayStation 4″ in these meetings at all.

Orbis, we were told today, is based on the AMD's A10 APU series. An APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) is a combined CPU and GPU.

PS4′s APU was described today as a "derivative" of existing A10 hardware. The hardware is "based on A10 system and base platform".

The "ultimate goal" for the hardware, we were told, is for it to be able to run 1080p60 games in 3D with "no problem," to create a machine that's powerful enough for "today and tomorrow's market".

The dev kits have "either 8Gb or 16Gb of RAM. Deduce from that what you will." The hardware is not being made in Japan, it was said.

When asked if PS4 will have an optical drive, specifically Blu-ray, our source responded: "Of course it has." We've been told the hard drive will be 256Gb "as standard," but it's not clear if it'll be a normal HDD or a solid state drive.

We were told that Sony's aim with Orbis is to avoid problems involved in launching PS3 by creating something "very affordable" but that "isn't a slouch".

The machine has WiFi and Ethernet connectivity and HDMI out. Our source said the was "no difference" between PlayStation 3 and Orbis input/output.

The UI, however, has been revamped. It was said today that players will now be able to press the PS button mid-game and travel "anywhere" on the system. An example given was buying DLC from the PS Store mid-game then seamlessly returning to play.

"They're trying to make it as fluid as possible," our source said.

We were also told that the machine will be designed to accept system and product updates in the background, and that it'll "always be in standby mode". When you set the console up, we were told, you'll be asked if you want to allow background downloads. You can, of course, disallow them.

No details have been given on the pad as yet. Confirmation is expected this month. Orbis is expected to be announced at an event "just before E3″ next year."




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#15 - dbjj12088 - 121w ago
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I'm skeptical if only because it's VG 247. They seem to pull these supposedly "huge rumors" out of their rears, if only to rake in a ton of pageviews and back links. If this is false, they'll totally get away with it because no one will go back to them and point out how what they said was BS.

#14 - tilla - 121w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by azrayl View Post
8-16 gb of ram compared to the current PS3's "256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM" is a huge difference but the current A10 models (130$) are not powerful at all. They barely compete with intels i3 series. Also the integrated GPU can't really work as the main GPU in my opinion. It needs a dedicated GPU as well.

A lot of your assumptions are false. A bluray player will cost Sony at MOST $20 They haven't said they're using an SSD at all and I doubt they are because 250 GB is way expensive in that format, but dirt cheap in regular HDs. Like, $20 again. Keep bulk/direct purchase prices and not retail.

#13 - G Sus - 121w ago
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hopefully due to the amd a10 architecture, devs can use standard pcs with blueray drives to find exploits etc. or at least lead to greater possibility of an acceptable working emulator.

i just cant wait to get my hands on one. (it sucks to be a tech junkie)

#12 - NTA - 121w ago
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Haha, why would Sony purposely include something that many users want

Hopefully, there will be another commercial about if they decide to though

#11 - G Sus - 121w ago
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looks like the ps4 (orbis) could be a pretty powerful piece of tech. the amd a10 architecture is pretty let down by pcs, since the operating systems are optimised for intel systems, and the inbuilt cpu/gpu isnt really totally catered for.

I assume Sony has worked alongside AMD to get the best performance from this technology. and since amd is a whole lot cheaper than current intel, or cell processors, i just hope were gonna get a lot of power for very little cash. as for the 8 to 16gb of ram , well we all know thats not going to happen, thats only whats in the dev. units, it is definitely not what will go into the retail units.

ive got to say im glad to hear it will have a bluray drive, since nothing better has come along yet and i was expecting them to produce a discless system with psn downloads only. The fact that the Blueray drive is there can only be a good sign.

It was also good to see that system updates would still be able to be optional through turning off background update downloads.
Looks like the Ps4 is going to be as much fun to play with as the ps3

#10 - azrayl - 121w ago
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8-16 gb of ram compared to the current PS3's "256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM" is a huge difference but the current A10 models (130$) are not powerful at all. They barely compete with intels i3 series. Also the integrated GPU can't really work as the main GPU in my opinion. It needs a dedicated GPU as well.

I mean the console is going to cost at least 400-450$ upon release. A BluRay player costs about 50-80$ max. Let's say the mainboard costs 100$. And an SSD HDD could cost about 120$-200$ depending on the size. This would add up to about 400-510$.

Sony always produced products which were very innovative. When I think about the first release of the PS3 that console went for 699$.

I don't really believe any of these rumors are true or even if they are true the PS4 is still in planning phase meaning Sony still didn't decide on what kind of features it will have.

The current information states that the PS4 won't provide nothing more than a more powerful multicore CPU/GPU and more memory. The PSN/SEN has also been redesigned so there's nothing new here aswell. A BluRay player which is 10 years old technology.

I had hoped we'd have holo discs by now. Though this wouldn't work because of a 256 gb HDD limitation. Ah yea the newest thing and probably the most useful feature will be USB 3.0 ports.

I hope that at least we will have the option to store games on external drives but thinking of Sony's paranoia they won't do that.
And considering the lifetime of an SSD HDD they'll have to be changed in 3 year cycles.

I wonder if in future there'll be less porting issues when consoles become smaller "gaming/entertainment only computers".
Thought it'd actually be sad if Sony would sell a desktop computer and call it a console.

#9 - DoctorimiJ - 121w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by Brian10122 View Post
But I can't think of one reason to buy an xbox, Microsoft doesn't even have IPs, while Nintendo and Sony have games like Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet, Mario, Zelda, etc. What does Microsoft have? Uh.. Gears of War? Which is a terrible game anyways..

You forgot Halo, Forza, Crackdown, Fable, Alan Wake and Kinect titles, Brian

There are plenty of lesser known XBox360 exclusives, but I know you're interested in A-list titles.

-Erich

#8 - mistarz - 121w ago
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Lets hope there will be an Other OS function in PS4.

Kinda loved the effort sony was putting into PS3 i mean developing the CELL chip and the ability to daisy chain a couple of machines.
Oh and i really REALLY hope they box it together with their head-mounted 3D visor.

M

#7 - Brian10122 - 121w ago
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And the appalling way they treat their developers.. They pretty much killed Rare - they used to make fantastic, instant classics ("The Beatles of video games") such as Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark, and Banjo Kazooie, and now Microsoft just has them making avatars, pfft. I'm no fanboy either as you are, I'm an all around gamer and love my 3DS, gaming PC, and Vita.

But I can't think of one reason to buy an xbox, Microsoft doesn't even have IPs, while Nintendo and Sony have games like Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet, Mario, Zelda, etc. What does Microsoft have? Uh.. Gears of War? Which is a terrible game anyways..

/rant over. Sorry about that, just had to agree with you there with a rant.. It needs to be known how much I hate Xbox/Microsoft.

#6 - elser1 - 121w ago
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all i can say is i am a sony fan boy never even touched xbox but they better have s damn fine product for me to buy it. the appauling way the treat there customers etc.

 

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