PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups Surface on Internet, Details
According to doskias on a Chinese BBS some Sony PlayStation 4 / PS4 Game Backups have surfaced on Internet torrent sites and TTG Tracker with details below and additional pictures HERE, as follows:
- Killzone Shadow Falls: 37.4GB
- Knack: 39.3GB
- Battlefield 4: 32.5GB
- AC4 Black Flag: 20.22GB
Reportedly THIS ASUS Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS drive was used for ripping the PS4 / PlayStation 4 games with details on the PS4 External HDD Layout as well.
Both games contain single PKG that contains whole data, as well as "RIF" file that is used for storing purchase data to activate digital contents from PSN Store.
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This seems interesting and today I've got my Killzone SF and COD Ghost from gamestop. I tried loading them on my PS3′s BD-ROM it couldn’t read them. Maybe it was too obvious lol, however it seems that PC's BD-ROM could read them.
Update: Two more games are released as well. Can't really reveal the original source because they're so strict about their security. My friend is the one of the members over there.
Update #2: UP9000-CUSA00190_00-KZ4RELEASE000041
It looks just like the one of those PS3′s typical PKG files..
From PS3 scene profiteer GaryOPA: The problem with the new PS4 setup, is EACH DISC contains an unique LICENSE.RIF file that tracks the 'actual disc' itself on what PS4's it is used, and when it is first used, etc.
So a dump of disc if running on ODE, or CFW would be missing the 'unique tracking' codes, and would never activate on a PS4 console.
It is hard to do right now as you need to disassemble a PS4 to prove this 'unique tracking' code, but you can't play the same ACTUAL DISC in TWO PS4's at ONCE.
Of course this brings up the 'USED GAME' re-sell cause again, since the PS4 game discs use RIF just like PSN activate, Sony can at a push of a button disable your LICENSE for JUST that ONE ACTUAL GAME DISC, blocking the use of used game disc on OTHER systems.
The way 'gamediscs' are setup now they are basically PSN store versions on a 'disc'.
100% the same files, one giant PKG, a parma.sfo and rif file.
It does make a big of sense, management wise, handling game discs and digital psn is the same both from publisher and sony and os side. They could also now quickly release a PSN game that becomes a hot-selling into a retail gamedisc, just throw the file onto a disc.
They could now also release a time-limted or demo-gamedisc at the retail level but it really wouild be the full same gamedisc, you just input a code online or activate the FULL version from the PSN store.
Yep, t is possible the way PS4 games are lay out, you could basically burn your own, or install with usb stick, just then you need a 'full license' file activated from the PSN store to play it.
Nope, PS3 does not see them correctly, they more like normal PC Blu-Rays now, see this image from news post.
Update #3: Following up on his previous update, below are some additional details from Sony PlayStation 4 hacker SKFU (via skfu.xxx/2013/11/ps4-game-dumps-hdmi-fail-more.html):
PS4 - Game Dumps, HDMI Fail & more...
Sleeping sucks, you miss news of different timezones for sure. So, what did happen while I slept?
1) PS4 Game Dumps
According to an A9VG member, PS4 games can be dumped with a common PC Blu-Ray drive. It seems that already a few games were dumped, inlcuding Killzone, Knack, Battlefield4 and AC4. As soon as I get access to a disc or dump myself, I will do an analyse of the containing files.
2) HDMI Fail
What happens if you force students to build your Next-Gen console under pressure? Well, they might return you faulty HDMI jacks.
IGN, Kotaku and many more individual users report that their PS4 video output stopped working. The console apparently is unusable for those who experienced it.
3) For those who already received a console
Sadly i'm still looking for a PS4 unit, if you can help me to get one contact me.
In case you got a unit for yourself, here are some examples of what has to be tested:
- Before powering up the unit for first time, make a 1:1 dump of the HDD
- Explore the HDD dump
- Dump a game disc
- Burn the dump to an empty BD
- Check if the PS4 recognizes the disc
- Check any files which can be transfered from PS4
- Savegames, etc
- Install a modified firmware
- Use my PS4FwTool
- Extract 2 firmwares
- Rebuild a new firmware based on both output
- Possible brick! Do at your own risk!
- Recovery menu should bring you back in case of faulty firmware, but only do this if you actually are aware of the risk and know what you do!
- Sniff anything
- Use SKFU's Proxy and/or Wireshark to check the network behavior
- Find unencrypted traffic transfers
- Modify the Companion Tool (iOS/Android)
- Intercept game traffic between Companion Tool and PS4 game etc.
Known working BDROM drives:
- Asus BW-12B1ST (asus.com/Optical_Drives/BW12B1ST/)
- Samsung DVDWBD SH-B083L (samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SH-B083L - Mediatek MT1939LSU controller)
- LG BH16 Super Multi Blue (lg.com/global/supermulti/bluray_products/bh16.html)
Known not working BDROM drives:
- LG BH10LS38 (lg.com/uk/support-product/lg-BH10LS38)
- Panasonic UJ-240 Laptop Drive (No site available) (aka Matshita/Panasonic/Matsushita BD-MLT UJ240AS)
More PlayStation 4 News...
I will add this to the main page shortly, thanks for the heads-up hilongo!
PS4 External HDD Layout
More pics for the above article... also from GregoryRasputin:
The PS4 can use an external HDD for many things, such as storing game saves and share files, but an external HDD can also be used to transfer files to the PS4, such as images and audio.
On the root of the HDD we have the usual 'PS4' folder, but individual games or appscan also have a folder outside of 'PS4' on the root directory, games or apps such as Sharefactory and Samurai warriors 4, here are some images to show what I'm talking about:
This is very interesting, I wonder how the PS4 Scene will turn out. Hopefully it isn't just a couple of Dev's trying to make money by selling devices that enable backups but I wouldn't mind having that either.
oh... rip games ps4
back-up games alredy? and the console is not even out yet
can't wait i have pre-order so i will try this..
I am not really surprised that dumps of games have already been released, but what is suprising is the fact that the disc version is just a psn version basically.
This is gonna be fun. ReactPSN all the way baby. Something tells me we will pwn this way faster than ps3. Any one try qa button combo yet? Hmmmm?