04-22-2010 #21fun4you2008 Registered User
So, this could be why this update is mandatory. It's to get you to agree to a new ToS. I'll have to go back (if someone doesn't do it before I do) and compare the previous ToS with this new one. Most of the info posted so far I believe was part of the previous ToS. The question is... what DID change - and why does Sony want everyone to move to it...
It could be the limitation of damages on the URL in the OP - I don't remember damages this, but it's been a while since I looked:
YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE RECOURSE IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISSATISFACTION WITH OR DAMAGE ARISING FROM PSN OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND SCEA’S MAXIMUM LIABILITY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR WITH RESPECT TO YOUR USE OF OR ACCESS TO PSN SHALL BE LIMITED TO YOUR DIRECT DAMAGES, NOT TO EXCEED THE UNUSED FUNDS IN YOUR WALLET AS OF THE DATE OF TERMINATION. EXCEPT AS STATED IN THE FOREGOING SENTENCE, SCEA EXCLUDES ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, AND ANY OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE SUFFERED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING ANY SERVICE OR DOWNLOADING ANY CONTENT TO YOUR PlayStation®3 COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, THE PSP® (PlayStation®PORTABLE) SYSTEM, OR ANY HARDWARE DEVICE, OR USING OR ACCESSING THE PSN. UNLESS THIS PROVISION IS UNENFORCEABLE IN YOUR JURISDICTION, THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS SHALL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE.
04-22-2010 #22alexcamrod Registered User
So now they can go in to the system whenever they want look around for hacks and not only ban you from the network but also mess your stuff up if they feel like it and say, well you shoulden't have hacked your system and we are not respnsible for any damages.
I'll bet just about anything, if the ps3 gets fully hacked, we'll start to see a massive jump in YLOD. I also bet that just to cover their butts they'll hit a few non-hacked systems and say, no its not just the hacked systems, but the ratio is going to be obvious.
I would say at least 75-85% of the YLOD increase will be hacked systems, even slightly hacked systems. I really can't wait for a CFW for ps3. The PSP has done awesome with CFWs, and i don't mean for pirating.
04-22-2010 #23NaTaS69 Registered User
Imagine if i bought a slim. Arrive at home, set it up, everything dandy.
Then hook up the internet, actually read the TOS and don´t agree.
Is still the retailer fault?
04-22-2010 #24makakep Registered User
I wish to know what data or content or functionalities or utilities are needed to be deleted. I want to download and use it on my 3.15.
04-22-2010 #25danielonys Registered User
Oh my God, with bigbrother apps maybe we can be banned !!!! $ony is winning the war... AND where's GEOhot, where are these hackers !!!
04-22-2010 #26Denbo44 Registered User
Here is the email I received from PlayStation(R)Network on the subject. Maybe we should all terminate at the same time?
If you have any questions or wish to terminate your accounts, please contact Customer Service at http://playstation.innovyx.net
04-22-2010 #27SuperDre Registered User
Well those terms are illegal according to european law, especially the option about automatically update WITH cause of data loss..
04-22-2010 #28semitope Registered User
These guys don't care about losing consumers at all it seems. They figure you are addicted to the playstation network. It's really damn strange; I wouldn't expect them to get THIS paranoid.
04-22-2010 #29skrapps Registered User
well in this case, i think they just screwed themselves over.. how can they cover themselves AFTER theyve done something wrong? this revision was released after the fact.. so they just pretty much agree that they were wrong.
i still dont see why anyone hasn't brought up that since 3.21 was an option, then sony is telling me i cant play my online only games even after i've paid for them, or the rights to play them or whatever.. if i decided not to upgrade to 3.21. thats kind of like selling you broken games.. "pay me, but they wont work" so in a way, they do force you to upgrade.
04-22-2010 #30SuperDre Registered User