04-29-2011 #201barrybarryk Guest
Well the reality is after attacks like these the hackers are rarely caught and the general mo is not to use the info yourself but to slice it up into sellable chunks and distribute it for profit but also blackmail (easily the top option and you'd be worried by how often this happens and gets dealt with quietly) or (as in the case of anonymous) the info would have been publicly posted to shame the company involved.
Unfortunately in this case it looks like the first option after blackmail failed.
04-29-2011 #202popshopadop Guest
they can confirm that all your data was stolen except the credit card info although that information was most likely sitting right next to your personal data on there server. sony a 5 year old can lie better..
04-29-2011 #203xUb3rn00dlEx Guest
And yes, the crackers are to blame, but in all honesty, not as much as Sony are. Sony are a multi-billion dollar corporation, and should have known better than to as someone so kindly put it, "leave all the windows open and doors unlocked." If you think they're less guilty than the crackers, then you sir have a mindset that scares me.
04-29-2011 #204leukotic Guest
Just these few things I have read here indicate this was not the work of a white hat trying to show everybody Sony's incompetence, it was a black hat hoping to use all the stolen data for their own malicious intent.
Their stocks are taking a massive plunge, probably hundreds of thousands of customers are considering never buying anything PlayStation related again, then there is all the lost revenue they would have normally made if the PSN was up and running where people are buying DLC and other purchases... not to mention all the potential lawsuits that will arise over this.
Yeah this was the work of Sony alright, the massive plot to screw themselves over and lose the trust of millions of customers and anybody else who has read or seen this on the news, lol.
04-29-2011 #205computers6 Guest
You guys act like Sony didn't have any security in place on their servers at all. I'm sure that they did have some security, and it was most likely pretty good. But there is absolutely no security that is impenetrable. No matter how good your security is, it can always be bypassed if the hacker is smart enough, and determined enough to. A human, or group of humans wrote the security and no human is perfect, so it will have some opening some where.
There is also no hard proof as of yet that credit card information was stolen. Sony never said that it was, but they aren't sure, and if they don't know they aren't going to say that there wasn't if there really was as that would get them into a lot of trouble.
Also the PSN has been down for over a week now. If Sony had no security in place, no nothing, why has it not been put back up yet? If there was no security, Sony wouldn't have to fix anything and could just put the servers back up now.
04-29-2011 #206xUb3rn00dlEx Guest
Have you not read anything? Yes, they had security, but all of your personal info was sent in plain text, unencrypted. And yes, no security is unbreachable, but certain securities are just not worth breaching, as brute forcing (i know this is not the only method) them would take billions of years, even with all our computing power. The fact is, they screwed up by not properly encrypting the info as it was transferred between consoles and servers, end of story.
As to your post about PSN and it's security, are you high? It hasn't been put back up because they screwed up big time, and now even governments agencies are investigating them. They stated they are rebuilding the PSN, meaning, since they screwed up, now they have to secure it the RIGHT WAY. You honestly made no sense by stating that.
04-29-2011 #207elser1 Guest
04-29-2011 #208xstationbr Guest
Stay tuned when our services back you will see an message like on Xbox 360 " You be banned because violations of term of... " Just Wait for anything like this...
And more.. GEOHOT will earn much more cash from Sony by all your support in these last challenge to recovery PSN Back...
Just an Rumor... i suppose...
04-30-2011 #209elser1 Guest
to keep you informed i read in my local paper today.."the courier mail" in brisbane , australia the police are investigating several cases of cc fraud due to sonys breach.."adelaide police are investigating a case where $2000 was stolen from one mans account"
be careful people.. while who knows if whats been reported is true its extremely annoying that sony hasnt updated us further on this issue as im sure they must know heaps more by now..
so yeah... if this is true and cc info has been stolen and is usable, or not encrypted,id love to see everyone take all there sony products back to where they purchased them for a full refund. i know its not going to happen... anyway i will be regretfully getting rid of my 1000s of dollars of sony "junk". i will be switching to pc gaming if sony doesn't rectify this with its customers.
04-30-2011 #210Montezumaa Guest
I never received one damn email from Sony about this "breech". Had I not been paying attention to the news, I would have not known.