01-05-2009 #1Starlight Guest
PlayStation 3 Trophies Reflect Skill More than Achievements
It was inevitable that gamers would compare PlayStation 3 trophies to the Xbox 360's achievements. While it's true that both reward systems add a considerable amount of replayability to games, it's still unclear which is superior.
The main thing that Xbox 360 fans can boast is that achievements are mandatory for every game available on the Xbox 360 and it has been that way since the launch of the system. It is a shame that the trophy system Sony implemented in many of its games were not available at launch and was not mandatory throughout most of 2008.
Hopefully, trophy support becomes mandatory in 2009, so that gamers aren't torn between buying games based on whether or not they support trophies. Regardless of which was around longer, trophies and achievements are very similar, and are in direct competition for gamers attention.
Here are the reasons why trophies should motivate more gamers to collect them all rather than collecting achievement points.
Almost everyone that owns an Xbox 360 wants to have a high gamer score to boast about. While it's obvious from a high gamer score that a person has a love for playing video games, it usually doesn't mean that this person is a particularly skilled gamer.
Most gamers that have a high gamer score have simply played a lot of games. That person usually doesn't have a 1,000 out of 1,000 on any of their games. Perhaps this person only has an Xbox 360, or perhaps this person only buys multiplatform games for the Xbox 360.
Whichever the case, it's clear that a gamer score doesn't say too much about a gamers skill. However, the trophy system for the Playstation 3 says a lot about the way a person plays a game, and their skill level.
The trophy system can embarrass gamers accustomed to playing a ton of games on the Xbox 360 and only completing them once or halfway through. If you were to play every PlayStation 3 game that supports trophies like this, you would probably gather a nice collection of the lowest trophy you can earn, which is a bronze trophy.
100 bronze trophies with no silver, gold, or platinum trophies to accompany them makes a gamer look a lot more amateurish than a gamer with a gamer score of 10,000 on the Xbox 360 with most of their games only having 300 out of 1000 points awarded.
The reason for this is that when you pull up someone's personal information on the PlayStation Network, you are not only shown the level of that person, and the number of trophies they possess, but the kind of trophies they've earned as well.
This person may have more trophies than you, but because the majority of his are bronze, and the majority of yours are bronze and silver, you may be a higher level than him. It's obvious that the trophy system rewards skill with prestige more than the Xbox 360's achievement system.
Yes, you can look over a persons games on Xbox Live to see how many points they've accumulated in each individual game, but it's not mandatory when looking at someone's profile. You are simply shown the gamer score itself. If it's high, you're impressed, if it's low, you're dismissive.
Meanwhile, this person with the 3,000 gamer score may have 1,000 out of 1,000 on all of his three games, and is probably the guy out-killing you 5 to 1 in a match of Call of Duty 4 for example.
The achievement system of the Xbox 360 may be a better business decision, because it can make a gamer with average skill feel like a gaming god because of his tremendous gamer score, thus persuading him to buy more games to increase his score.
However, gamers that want to flaunt their true skill in the faces of others cannot deny the draw of the trophy system on the Playstation 3. You can guffaw at a gamer's 45 bronze trophies, while he ogles your much sought after platinum trophies.
In conclusion, the trophy system is a much more effective way of showing off your gaming skill than the achievement system. Any person with a good amount of money can pad their gamer score, but it takes a lot of hard work and skill to earn those platinum trophies.
This article is not meant to be insulting to Xbox 360 gamers, because there are many that complete their games fully to earn all 1,000 points. However, this accomplishment is often overlooked if their overall score is low.
The trophy system motivates gamers to fully complete their games to earn more trophies, because most gamers do not want to look like a well-paid amateur with his or her not-so-impressive collection of bronze trophies.
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01-05-2009 #2adrianc1982 Guest
These articles sometimes make me feel like we have to prove something to those xbox360 users. We dont have to prove anything, we dont have to compare every single aspect or to remind everyone of that one feature thats better in the ps3 than the xbox360. Trophys are just a copy of achivements and who ever says its not must be stupid or trying to hard not to see the truth. The truth is achivements are better because of the fact that they are mandatory on every single game.
If the ps3 had invented this reward system we would have had since launch the mandatory trophy system. Sony is trying to catch up with MS with the trophy reward system and sony better make mandatory those trophys or else xbox360 will eat their market share. The reward system really adds more replay value to every game, and make it more enjoyable, just think about your favorite games (mine is the orange box) with trophys out of the box wow that wouldve been really amazing.
A high gamerscore also means that even if the gamer gets only 300 out of the 1000 points he dedicates time and plays a lot and has unlocked a lot more points than you. If you dont have money to play games thats not the other user problem its yours.
Bottom line is trophys and achivements only works to add replay value to games and since achivements have been mandatory for every game and ps3 trophys havent, achivements are better (and thats my opinion). Sorry I didnt buy this article...
01-05-2009 #3Anthogno Guest
01-05-2009 #4aleXtrm Guest
I only recently purchased Resistance 1 & 2 and was quite surprised that the first one still has no trophy support. After almost 2 years sony's launching killer title, one that is heavily associated with ps3, still has no trophies?! I have not even opened Resistance 2, but I plan to do so only after I finnish the first one.
I am pretty sure the second one will have trophy support - its been released so recently. On another note, the few other games that I bought and have already tried are: the new Ratchet & Clank and Devil May Cry 4. Both do not have trophies . And what about MGS4...WHERE ARE THE TROPHIES SONY?
Although its not Sony who should be really nagged, its the developers since they would have to program and implement the trophies. But it feels pathetic that such popular titles still have no trophies. And it was even more irritating when Rockstar released trophies for GTA4 in autumn. Do you really expect me to start a new game?
But, then on the other hand it does push me to play it again (which goes back to the replay value mentioned earlier) Sorry for my rant, I just felt like I needed to express my irritation.
01-05-2009 #5xxLindenxx Guest
i like the trophy system because it has a leveling system and the only thing keeping it back is that there are not enough games to rank up your level.I feel discouraged seeing only 15G for a really hard achievement, i would rather like a bronze trophy then that but over all seeing 8000G feels better then having level 9 right? unless if you press R1 then you can see the number of trophy's in witch case feels just as good comparing them at the same number of achievements of course.
All in all achievements will always stay more popular because it's a frequently used term, as of now, saying trophy on the ps3 to anyone, most people don't know what they are plus since there are more games that have achievements on the 360 and that everyone already has a few points then why buy a ps3 game with trophy's that you only have a few trophy's then a game with achievements that you already have a lot of.
01-06-2009 #6adrianc1982 Guest
And thats why Im so angry at this article because its BS and makes me feel stupid and a fanboy just by reading it.
Sorry I feel better now..
01-06-2009 #7Bountikilla Guest
I don't get it
I shouldn't be commenting on this article because i do not get the big deal behind trophies and achievement points. I know a few people who will buy or rent a game the don't even like for the achievements. That doesn't make sense to me can some one explain it to me.
Any way this story made sense to me. I have both a ps3 and a 360 and i think that trophies do make it seem like your a better gamer cause you can see precisely what they accomplished. But if microsoft comes through with the promise to trade your points for stuff then achievements all the way (thats just a rumor i heard though).
01-06-2009 #8slastrina Guest
personally i reckon achievements are useless, they can be fun to brag to mates about but in the end its not like they are going to give me anything else, i reckon they should have a point trade type system where the trophies gain us points which we can trade for games.