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266w ago - As with nearly every PS3 Firmware revision, the recently released PS3 Firmware 3.30 update arrived with user reports of PlayStation 3 consoles breaking post-update.

To quote: "The main reported problems are that the systems no longer read any form of disc, thus making gaming and watching movies an impossibility - even the NetFlix disc is reported to no longer work in some cases.

One user report stated on the official PlayStation forums: "Are you kidding me! First (3.21) it freezes, and now with this one (3.30) it won't even read or recognize the disk, that means that I won't be able to play online or offline."

Although they may be isolated cases, has anyone here experienced these issues since updating to PS3 Firmware 3.30 this week? Feel free to reply in the comments below!

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#91 - BobClub - 256w ago
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I categorically reject the notion that these bugs are intentional. If you have ever worked in the industry and designed systems like this, you would know that intentionally planting bugs in firmware to boost profits while the CEO cackles in his evil underground lair is purely fantasy. Companies can get into huge trouble for pulling shenanigans like this.

However, I will take the middle road, and say that Sony does know that these bugs exist, but they were not intentional. Sony, more likely than not, designed the latest firmware revisions specifically for the PS3 slim. They may be putting off implementing a fix so that they can milk some cash out of people going to the store to buy new PS3 slims so that they can remedy a broken fat PS3 and get back to playing games. Putting off a firmware patch can be done by feigning ignorance of the issue (like what sony seems to be doing right now), and once the issue reaches a boiling point, they will probably extend the release deadline even further by putting some read tape in (such as "it's a really complicated fix, and it's going to take time") In a way it is a fortuitous bug for Sony, because they might be able to milk some more money from customers.

However, the issue at hand here is that older versions of PS3 have over heating issues due to the Blu-Ray player. I think it is now common knowledge that blu-ray player speed and encryption rate have been boosted to allow 3d movies and games which will require more processing power. Of course, the PS3 slim uses far less power than any of the fat PS3s (only about half as much, and 1/3 as much for 1st gen. models) so boosting blu-ray performance is not an issue. The other PS3s are overheating. Those that have the 1st generation models have had the most severe failures, as in 60GB versions not being able to read any discs, and YLOD.

This is probably catastrophic failure, and a burned out circuit. Newer models (gen 2 and 3) use less power than 1st gen, and have issues with Blu-rays and ps3 games, but not DVDs. Processing Blu-ray and PS3 game data is processor intensive, and thus generates a lot of heat. Decoding DVDs does not use nearly as processor intensive, so they work fine. In addition, often times, if the unit is left idle for a while, and gets a chance to cool down, games can be played for a period of time before overheating returns. I am convinced that their is a bus between the blu-ray player and the CPU that is overheating, or getting damaged here.

Which leads to the last issue at hand and reflects very poorly on Sonys management. The original PS3 and the PS3 slim are very different systems, when it comes to fabrication process. your talking 90nm process on some, 65nm process on others, and 45 nm process on the newer versions. Not to mention other minor hardware tweaks made in each successive generations. Any competent embedded system designer or engineer will tell you that you cannot use the same firmware for three completely different systems just because they share the same architecture.

The new paradigm for designing these types of systems is no longer processor speed, or compexity, but POWER CONSUMPTION. Sony has failed terribly in seeing this trend, and I think that we are just seeing the tip of the ice berg right now. Heat issues are progressive, they build up over a period of time (when the system is in use) and some useres use their PS3 more than others. This means, more likely than not, all original PS3 systems will fail. And what makes it really bad is that these systems would have been fine if it were not for mandatory firmware upgrades that essentially cripple any non-PS3 slim over time.

I can't see the future, but I will say that if this is the case, it may just lead to people completely losing faith in sony, and lead them to becoming an irrelevant brand, just like Sega, Atari, and all of the other long forgotten systems.

#90 - androvsky - 256w ago
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So you're saying they're making bad upgrades, so that the people who aren't upgrading will install the bad upgrade and be forced to buy a new system... even though they're not upgrading.

And they're hoping you'll spend more money on a new console, even though Sony barely makes any money on them; they probably get more money on the purchase of a single new game. Not to mention they run the risk of you just buying a competitor's system.


#89 - SmartGamer3000 - 256w ago
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To everyone on this Thread:

Can`t you see what`s going on they`re intentionally putting bugs in the software updates so that our systems CAN break down to that we`ll spend more money buying a newer system. For those of us who don`t want to comply and update our system for fear of losing certain capabilities.

In the older models it came with the ability to install Linux so when they made the newer models they scrapped that all together as well as made an update to wipe it off the systems of customers who would update their system.

I say don`t trust Sony it`s just another Company that doesn`t give two craps about it`s consumers just as long as they maximize profits and besides Companies and Governments think that the People are Stupid and that they can do whatever they want.

All I have to say is look at your particular situation if you have been affected by the software update problems and think about it, why after a certain amount of years if your a person that takes the most extreme care of your console that it would just conk out on you for no reason.

Just think about it.

Peace

Smartgamer3000

#88 - CapoJoel - 259w ago
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since updating I've been unable to play most older games, the oldest I can play are mlb 09 the show and tiger woods 2009, so it's pissing me off obviously, I just don't get why older games are incompatible

#87 - bigmel1 - 260w ago
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i was lucky on this because i updated to it and nothing happened, but 4 of my friends ps3's broke. idk why.

#86 - PS4 News - 260w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by letix View Post
is there anyway to downgrade my demo unit to a retail?

Not yet, but it is definitely possible... for now the best thing you can do is use the PS3 Demo unlock codes though:

http://www.ps4news.com/forums/ps3-guides-tutorials/ps3-demo-unlock-codes-guide-99034.html

#85 - letix - 260w ago
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i'm on demo unit 3.30 and everything works fine.

ps: is there anyway to downgrade my demo unit to a retail?

#84 - ZombieBob92 - 261w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by laggmaster View Post
if someone has figured it out and has kept it a secret then yeah it would probably work on 3.30... and that is the best secret that person ever kept they, i'm assuming that he helps out his friends with this breakthrough, would have free games for life... as long as sony doesn't figure out there system for doing it that is...

That is actually a very good point... If they did figure this out sony would probably know or eventually find out because of the new games that just keep adding to their trophy collection, assumeing that they have their console online.

#83 - GrandpaHomer - 261w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by B4rtj4h View Post
C'mon! You should not feel guilty for other people. Sony needs to be sorry! But they do not do anything!

I got mine back and it was "re-flashed" as the ticket said.

Well - technically - since introduction of the fw 3.21 when Sony give us a "choice" you should be also able to chose with WHICH fw is your repaired PS3 returned to you and if not kick somebodys balls! This is all technically simple as with proper equipment / service dongle Sony can put ANY fw on any machine they want and all they really need to do is to add ONE step in the call centrum script.

e.g. "do you want to keep your current fw? Y/N" and the same must be displayed and followed by service center - if the "keep current fw" on the ticket is marked with Y they will simply flash it with old fw rather than latest one. No realy extra cost or work involved in that (apart of implemeting those two changes in the support / service procedures).

#82 - B4rtj4h - 261w ago
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C'mon! You should not feel guilty for other people. Sony needs to be sorry! But they do not do anything!

I got mine back and it was "re-flashed" as the ticket said.