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JaicraB Begins PS3 Blu-ray Drive and Firmware Dump Examination


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239w ago - Spanish PS3 developer JaicraB has returned and is now assisting DemonHades in examining the recently reported PS3 Blu-ray drive and resulting PlayStation 3 Firmware dump.

Download: PS3 Blu-ray CDS FileSystem - Param.sfo - PS3Disc.sfb / PS3 Blu-ray CDS FileSystem - Param.sfo - PS3Disc.sfb [Mirror]

To quote, roughly translated from Spanish to English: "Well more information from the recent work done by the HadesTeam and Calimba, this time show photos of the connection and also how Windows shows the drive contents PlayStation 3.

JaicraB already returned from his vacation and is back operating on the computer to attack the reader.

As discussed, we work in parallel to exploit Other. We have access to BD reader as if it were one more unit of your PC.

EVEREST features as:

SONY PS-302R SYSTEM
Firmware Revision = 4151
Size = 8 MB buffer
Region Code = 1
Remaining User Changes = 0
Remaining Vendor Changes = 0

* Supported Disk Types
BD-ROM Read
BD-R Read
BD-RE Read
HD DVD-ROM = Not supported
HD DVD-R = Not supported
HD DVD-RW = Not supported
DVD-ROM = Read
Dual Layer DVD + R9 = Not supported
DVD + R = Not supported
DVD + RW = Not supported
Dual Layer DVD-R9 = Not supported
DVD-R = Read
DVD-RW = Read
DVD-RAM = Not supported
CD-ROM = Read
CD-R = Read
CD-RW = Read
Buffer Underrun Protection = Supported
C2 Error Pointers = Supported
CD + G = Not supported
CD-Text = Supported
Hybrid Disc = Supported
JustLink = Supported
LabelFlash = Supported
Layer-Jump Recording = Not supported
LightScribe = Not Supported
Mount Rainier = Supported
SMART = not supported
CSS = Supported
CPRM = Supported
AACS = Supported
VCPS = Not supported
BD CPS = Not Supported

We are investigating removing the FW, the next step. If any file you want to see what you have learned here. Greetings!

PS: For gossips ... but you want to do something useful on the PS3 SCENE abandon ship and stop pulling guns."

JaicraB Begins PS3 Blu-ray Drive and Firmware Dump Examination

JaicraB Begins PS3 Blu-ray Drive and Firmware Dump Examination

JaicraB Begins PS3 Blu-ray Drive and Firmware Dump Examination

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#31 - PS4 News - 238w ago
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Continue discussion in the new thread here: http://www.ps4news.com/forums/ps3-hacks/new-ps3-blu-ray-304r-drive-confirmed-working-pc-111935.html

#30 - TUHTA - 239w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by skullorz View Post
Can't wait to find out what he finds out

OT: Anyone cracked the PARAM.PFD files inside save games yet?

Don't think so, if it, there will be a lot of hacked game saves with all trophys opened!

Hope helped +rep

#29 - skullorz - 239w ago
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Can't wait to find out what he finds out

OT: Anyone cracked the PARAM.PFD files inside save games yet?

#28 - biotechhh - 239w ago
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360 dvd fw is encrypted, in the original xbox was not.

if sony can update the drive fw is not possible to get the decrypted vesion of this fw from an update before it gets encrypted with the BD key?

#27 - CJPC - 239w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by ekrboi View Post
i highly doubt that even the test/debugs could flash a non sony signed firmware.


Yeah - your right, they will not allow a non-signed firmware to be installed.

Quote Originally Posted by pizzag View Post

where is the firmware for the blu-ray drive stored? is the board for the drive and the drive itself 1 complete unit or does sony make the board for the drive and another company makes the drive?

I ask because on the 360 drives for example you have the drive itself with the circuit board all as 1 complete unit. On the ps3 they almost feel like 2 seperate parts. i wonder would it be possible for lets say sony to make the circuit board for the drive and have the firmware on the board? and upon being connected to the drive itself the board somehow writes the firmware to the drive?

Does anybody know if the ps3 decrypts the firmware for the blu-ray drive at any point or does that not even matter? is the official firmware for 360 drive encrypted? if so, was the encryption RE or was the 360 used to decrypt it. thanks for the reply demonhades.

doing some reading and noticed this little tidbit of info. can somebody confirm or deny?

The drive logic board and motherboard are tied to each other with a unique crypto-key. Without the right drive board you can't even perform system updates (it will fail around 65% when it tries to flash the drive firmware, and you will be stuck forever). So DO NOT attempt to update the firmware until you have the matching drive board.

if that really is accurate than that means the ps3 upon system updates, erases the blu-ray drive firmware and rewrites it. that would be awesome if the ps3 could do all that. if i had a test or debug unit could one actually test this stuff and rebuild the system firmware update with a modified blu-ray firmware?


Few quick answers - the BD firmware is on the BD drive, it is decrypted by the logic on the BD Drive.

If I recall, some 360 drive FW's may have been encrypted (don't hold me down on this one though - not a 360 guy!)

The advantage of the 360 drive hacking vs the PS3 is that microsoft used fairly standard designs, while sony went about it a different way - making it themselves.

An interesting note re the drive FW, on a PS3 TOOL, the entire update process is recoverable if it crashes - with the exception of the BD drive flash - so yeah, it probably does as you just stated.

#26 - ekrboi - 239w ago
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i highly doubt that even the test/debugs could flash a non sony signed firmware.

#25 - pizzag - 239w ago
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ok so are you saying that you are trying to decrypt the firmware after it has been dumped in an encrypted form from the blu-ray drive with other methods that you don't care to share at this time or that you are trying to dump the firmware in an unencrypted state with methods ?

I also have a few more questions:

where is the firmware for the blu-ray drive stored? is the board for the drive and the drive itself 1 complete unit or does sony make the board for the drive and another company makes the drive?

I ask because on the 360 drives for example you have the drive itself with the circuit board all as 1 complete unit. On the ps3 they almost feel like 2 seperate parts. i wonder would it be possible for lets say sony to make the circuit board for the drive and have the firmware on the board? and upon being connected to the drive itself the board somehow writes the firmware to the drive?

Does anybody know if the ps3 decrypts the firmware for the blu-ray drive at any point or does that not even matter? is the official firmware for 360 drive encrypted? if so, was the encryption RE or was the 360 used to decrypt it. thanks for the reply demonhades.

doing some reading and noticed this little tidbit of info. can somebody confirm or deny?

The drive logic board and motherboard are tied to each other with a unique crypto-key. Without the right drive board you can't even perform system updates (it will fail around 65% when it tries to flash the drive firmware, and you will be stuck forever). So DO NOT attempt to update the firmware until you have the matching drive board.

if that really is accurate than that means the ps3 upon system updates, erases the blu-ray drive firmware and rewrites it. that would be awesome if the ps3 could do all that. if i had a test or debug unit could one actually test this stuff and rebuild the system firmware update with a modified blu-ray firmware?

#24 - DemonHades - 239w ago
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Quote Originally Posted by pizzag View Post
Just a thought but what about using egohot's exploit in conjunction with the blu-ray drive? From wat i understand if you do the exploit you have a lot more control of the information passed between the hardware of the ps3.

Is it possible to run the exploit, load a game and possibly sniff some of the info out that you guys are needing? I mean the the ps3 decrypts all the game info right? or does the blu-ray decrypt the game info?

I havent really done much with my ps3 since the swap switch for ps2 games. But i do get on the sites daily and read up on wats going on. a lot of good ideas floating around on these forums.

Keep up the good work everyone and eventually we will find something. Another question i was wondering is can you have the blu-ray drive hooked up to the ps3 and the pc at the same time?

connect the ffc flex at bd and pc using the same ide colapse the bus data (freeze the ps3),for it me team working at a solution.

Dont is needed geohype xploit (hypervisor) and yes the fw is encripted into spansion flash (mx25 is only a eeprom,no the fw flash store) but for it we work at it for dump the fw decrypted whith others method dont share for moments

1saludo and thx

#23 - pizzag - 239w ago
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Just a thought but what about using egohot's exploit in conjunction with the blu-ray drive? From wat i understand if you do the exploit you have a lot more control of the information passed between the hardware of the ps3.

Is it possible to run the exploit, load a game and possibly sniff some of the info out that you guys are needing? I mean the the ps3 decrypts all the game info right? or does the blu-ray decrypt the game info?

I havent really done much with my ps3 since the swap switch for ps2 games. But i do get on the sites daily and read up on wats going on. a lot of good ideas floating around on these forums.

Keep up the good work everyone and eventually we will find something. Another question i was wondering is can you have the blu-ray drive hooked up to the ps3 and the pc at the same time?

#22 - TUHTA - 239w ago
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so why has nobody done it before??

Nice work Jaicrab!

 

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